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    213hardy
    213hardy (e2 Member)
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    24 Jun 2012 - 5:33 PM
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    Hi all,

    I'm hoping someone can point me in the right directionTongue I met a pastels artist yesterday who mainly does pet portraits, but is wanting to branch out into doing more wildlife stuff. I showed her some off my photos, just to see if any could be off use to her, to draw from. The answer is yes so they have asked me about my fees. To be honest i hadn't really thought about fees, but since i've been asked i don't really want to turn around and say i haven't got a clue.

    Does anyone have any thoughts or advice?

    Thank you in anticipation

    Den

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    pulsar69
    pulsar69 (e2 Member)
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    24 Jun 2012 - 6:02 PM
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    In the current climate i would say take what you can get from your photography in terms of payments so dont go overboard then invest it in some new equipment so you have something to show.

    Be sure though to put something in writing to agree what the photo will be used for when you hand the print or jpeg over , for instance if they are going to produce say 10 pastels from one of your images and charge 200 each charging 50 quid would seem a little off,it might help to investigate the artist a little further and how much they sell and prices ??

    Andrew

    thewilliam
    24 Jun 2012 - 6:39 PM
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    I'd negotiate a royalty based on sales.

    One landscape photographer sold all rights of a pic, for what must have seemed a handsome sum, to a company that makes fine-art prints and canvasses. This image has now sold something over a million copies, so if he'd licenced the image instead, he'd be a millionaire.

    adrian_w
    adrian_w (e2 Member)
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    24 Jun 2012 - 9:23 PM
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    Agree with William.
    Find out how much she charges for her general picture sales ( not commissioned portraits as they may be more expensive) & negotiate a royalty fee. I would hazard a guess that 10% of sales would be reasonable. ( But she may think different.)

    puertouk
    24 Jun 2012 - 11:27 PM
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    The problem with what they have said above about royalties is, how do you know how many she has sold? You must certainly have a lot of trust in someone to do that, but with royalty sales, you can earn a lot of money. Catch 22.

    Focus_Man
    27 Jun 2012 - 4:18 PM
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    It might just be better to agree limited reproduction rights (Most certainly do not sell the copyright!) So maybe agree to an unlimited amount of a particular picture in a particular format. I say that because as has already been mentioned, you just cannot monitor output. If however you do see the same picture in either a different size of format, you have recourse to extra fees or litigation should you feel that is financially viable - generally at solicitors fees of £250.00 per hour, it is not.
    Just a thought.

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