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aftertherain
11 Mar 2010 - 12:22 PM


Quote: All four of our group came away felling a bit deflated by the lack of stalls and bargains

Yes, I was suprised at how many times I looked at something, asked the price and was told "we're not selling these we're the distributor"

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
11 Mar 2010 - 12:55 PM

Don't worry Merl and Brian, it's not the wrinkly bit that influences them!

Some exhibitors were great, and to be honest most were if you could actually engage them in conversation to start with. I think some of the smaller companies that their staff (usually the owner/creator) are just as shy as I am, so striking that first bit of chat is often the key.

Some stalls were less engaging. As I say I was looking for the 70-200 which was a good price at the show. One company that will remain nameless lost out on the business when one of the staff asked the female in front "are you actually going to buy that my dear", my reply would have been "not if you are going to be that condescending, no!"

So I bought from Jacobs, at least that way I have a local store to take it back to if there are any issues.

The guys on the Cadremont stand were great once we got chatting, as were the ones doing some kind of dye-sub, sorry can't remember their name. The dye-sub guys were about the only ones to make the initial approach though.

The other impressive item (which I have agreed to review later for my website and Welshot) was a special show version of the Pandora's Box bean bag which came with a groundsheet. I can foresee many uses for that combination.

Had some good chats with other companies, but mainly on the back of Welshot team (Lee and Eifion) doing their stuff, though I try to keep in the background most of the time for that.

Have some new paper from Permajet to try which I'm looking forward to.

However, lunch break now over, so will have to catch up later.

One note though for anyone that bought the Canon 9500 mk II on Sunday it was down to 399 by 3pm yesterday as they were obviously keen not to have to take them back to the warehouse.

Last Modified By csurry at 11 Mar 2010 - 12:56 PM
PhotoKaren
11 Mar 2010 - 1:09 PM

It was my first time at Focus, I went on Sunday with a non photography friend. Was good to have the major manufacturers there so I could play around with the tripods before I buy.

Enjoyed seeing all the different companies that offer photo related services and products.

I completely missed some of the stands i.e. Nikon. Wasn't until I walked out that I realised I hadn't been to their stand. They must have been hiding. Smile

Will go again but on a weekday so I dont get crushed. Hopefully by then I'll have a new camera and can buy lots of fab things.

martyn05
martyn05  7363 forum posts England
11 Mar 2010 - 1:35 PM


Quote: And how much did you save by buying at Focus ????

The 24-70mm was 100 cheaper than WE current price. The 70-200mm was the same as shop prices but a guy next to me and I complained to the guy serving who knocked 100 off for each of us. I was going to get these lenses anyway this week and even though I only saved 100 on each of them I was happy with my purchases. I was after more batteries for my 5D II but with staff discount I can get them from Argos for 50 each which is not bad.

Some of the staff there were very helpful while others were only interested if you were buying there and then.

All in all a good experience but next year the wife will be going with me to make sure I don't spend as much !!

aftertherain
11 Mar 2010 - 3:05 PM


Quote: Some exhibitors were great, and to be honest most were if you could actually engage them in conversation to start with.

You mean a conversation like this one?



Me: Can you swap that tripod head over so I can see what the weight is like please?
Him: you do know that's an expensive CF tripod?
Me: Yes
Him: that's really a pro tripod, can I show you these cheaper ones over here, they might suit you better?
Me: No you can't, I'd like to look at thisone please.
Him: But I'd have to take it off the stand (it was a gound level stand)
Me: do you sell tripods or not?
Him: yes, but as I've just told you this is a professional quality tripod.
Me: And how do you know I'm not a professional photographer.
Him: Well............... are you?
Me: No (and you can shove your tripod - - didn't actually say that but I wish I had)

Chant57
Chant57 e2 Member 8374 forum postsChant57 vcard United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
11 Mar 2010 - 3:21 PM


Quote: One note though for anyone that bought the Canon 9500 mk II on Sunday it was down to 399 by 3pm yesterday as they were obviously keen not to have to take them back to the warehouse

Oh bummer - I bought one on sunday for 499. 399 is one heck of a deal, but guess the way for me to look at it is .....I was really happy with the price I paid at the time, it was cheaper than I had seen anywhere online, I was only there for the sunday, so it was a buy it now or forget it and possibly pay more online later scenario. Im still a relatively happy bunny all things considered. ( Note to self - perhaps dont go on first day next year) lol

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110307 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
11 Mar 2010 - 4:55 PM

I was desperate to buy one when I saw the price - but (un)fortunately my hp 9180 still keeps on going Wink

Someone got a bargain though, I think they were down to the last three when I saw the pile at that price

BigRick
BigRick  92085 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
11 Mar 2010 - 8:19 PM


Quote: Some exhibitors were great, and to be honest most were if you could actually engage them in conversation to start with.


You mean a conversation like this one?



Me: Can you swap that tripod head over so I can see what the weight is like please?
Him: you do know that's an expensive CF tripod?
Me: Yes
Him: that's really a pro tripod, can I show you these cheaper ones over here, they might suit you better?
Me: No you can't, I'd like to look at thisone please.
Him: But I'd have to take it off the stand (it was a gound level stand)
Me: do you sell tripods or not?
Him: yes, but as I've just told you this is a professional quality tripod.
Me: And how do you know I'm not a professional photographer.
Him: Well............... are you?
Me: No (and you can shove your tripod - - didn't actually say that but I wish I had)

should have done.... if they want your business then you deserve some respect as a customer

psiman
psiman  10551 forum posts Wales
11 Mar 2010 - 8:48 PM

Regarding the lack of stall and bargains, Focus is supposed to be primarily a trade show, i.e. the manufacturers and distributors are showing off their wares to professionals and retailers. However Jacobs, Park Cameras and Camera World normally are very competitive and often have deals on that are just for FOI (last year I bought a Canon 40D from Jacobs as they were offering an extension on Canon's cashback deal and this year at least 2 local snappers parted with 450 for the Epson R2880 at Camera World which is way better than it can be bought anywhere else).

Personally I find it a great opportunity for comparison shopping, I went along intending to authenticate my decision to buy a Manfrotto 055CXPRO3 but stopped by at the Giottos stand first and a really helpful product specialist there showed me their range and next thing I knew I was at Jacobs parting with my hard earned for a lovely new Giottos carbon fibre tripod and ball head. The thing that sold it for me was the Giottos guy was quite genuine and suggested I went and had a look at the Manfrotto and compared them. When I did I felt I preferred the Giottos.

Mind you I can't get away with the old pretending I "have had a new piece of kits for ages" or that "it only cost a tenner" argument as my better half is now also into photography and any new kit purchases tend to come as matched pairs (gulp!)

The other thing I really like about FOI is that its a great opportunity in one place to see lots of different examples of superb images which make a refreshing change from the often fairly formulaic stuff we see at camera clubs.

Simon

Last Modified By psiman at 11 Mar 2010 - 8:49 PM
montechoro
montechoro  112340 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
11 Mar 2010 - 9:16 PM

There were some great deals if you did your homework and looked around.

Anyone looking for a pair of Pocket Wizard Plus II's would find The Flash Centre prices unbeatable (even by importing from HK) and they have extended the offer for anyone who couldn't get to the show until Friday 12th.

Have a look at the FOI pdf flyer on their web site if you are interested. TFC sold out at the show - but will honour the price for orders received by the 12th.

No-one else at the show would match TFC's special show price of 260 for the pair and I have seen used ones sell for more than this.

Britman
Britman  81669 forum posts England
12 Mar 2010 - 12:17 AM

Well I have to say I found it enjoyable enough, managed to get the manfrotto 190xprob for 85 from Jacobs. Although did my researcg on the Manfrotto stand, those guys are ace and know their stuff. Some good bargains but unless you are going to buy or for research I can't see it being that good a day.

Spent about an hour on the canon stall, 5d, 7d, 1d and 550d all got a good try. Also tried the 50mm F1.2, superb lens, the DoF is brilliant on a portrait.

My mate bought of those Fat Gecko mounts, must say I'm very impressed with it. We couldn't resist trying it in the NEC car park.

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