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If you were to "go professional" what would you shoot?

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redsnappa
redsnappa  121916 forum posts United Kingdom
11 Aug 2014 - 6:44 PM

I've done quite a bit of fetish photography over the last couple of years so yes that's what I'd love to shoot full time if it were ever possible.

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brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110293 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
11 Aug 2014 - 7:00 PM

Water sport, everything from wind and kite surfing through ZapCat and Powerboat racing ending up with big boat racing like the Americas Cup, Cowes Week etc

As I'm already doing the first four and a little of the last on an irregular basis (as in, when the come down this way Smile ) it would be a natural extension of something I love to do for my own pleasure but the idea of being paid for it would be irresistible

redsnappa
redsnappa  121916 forum posts United Kingdom
11 Aug 2014 - 7:48 PM

I've shot lots of different fetishes images Brian but not yet done a water sport shoot. Wink

here4years
here4years e2 Member 180 forum postshere4years vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
11 Aug 2014 - 7:54 PM


Quote: Water sport,

Yep me to. Did lots of sailing in the RN (RYA Offshore Skipper) and have done quite a few Cowes Weeks. Would love to photograph the big yachts under full sail from an inflatable (RIB) and also some onboard action shots. Several years ago there was a lady photographer called Kos who took some great action shots (usually dangling from a harness on the main masthead). Her images were full of colour and action, flying spray, big colourful sails, crew hanging over the side etc.

puertouk
puertouk  21073 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
12 Aug 2014 - 10:15 AM

Starting out from scratch, you would most probably go bankrupt within the first 6 months. You would have no idea where to go, who to see and what to charge. Who would trust you to deliver when you have not done this before?

I would have thought by getting a degree or something similar would be a start and then try getting in at the bottom by joining a photography company. This way you meet the right people in the business, who could well help you in the future when you go it alone.

There are a lot of photographers out there who struggle to make a living, who have been professional for a long number of years and you still see these people going bust.

ikky
ikky  United Kingdom
12 Aug 2014 - 3:32 PM

The quick answer would be stay away from trying to make a living at it.
As Stephen (aka puertouk) points out most go bust very quickly.
Also when you turn a hobby into a business you run the risk of losing the enjoyment and pleasure from it.
But having said all that if you dont try you will allways be thinking "what if".
So ask yourself
1 Have you the equipment neccesary if not can you afford the outlay with possibly little if any return
2 Have you sold any work ,if so would they buy more
3 Who or what will be your market
4 Who is the opposition, how good are they, what are there prices like

779HOB
779HOB  21021 forum posts United Kingdom
12 Aug 2014 - 4:08 PM

What would I shoot - anything and everything.

JackAllTog
JackAllTog e2 Member 53632 forum postsJackAllTog vcard United Kingdom58 Constructive Critique Points
12 Aug 2014 - 4:26 PM

Ideally, Id want it to fit in with my current location and desire for my own free time to be preserved.
Ideally Id have a Studio base that was publicly accessible and still very close to my house, but separate enough to rent out. It would be big enough to rent for small training/conference/news casting events in any sector.
Ideally Id be a good public speaker able to present, teach and sell confidently.
Id already have built up a social media following that would act as a launch site for adding general credibility. And Id have a brand within a genre that people knew me for.
Ideally Id not have to be tempted to be a brand ambassador so that I could share my experience without compromise
Ideally Id be shooting some family groups for famous people such that other would also pay to be shot by me.
Ideally Id be a photo shop wizard and my best friend would run a fashion & lifestyle magazine chain both in print and on the web.
Ideally Id have a team of supporting people for post processing, Styling, makeup, wardrobe, printing and framing etc
Oh and Id be able to reliably take good photos every time Wink

In the real world - honestly, sorry, i'd not share my plans openly.

arhb
arhb e2 Member 72280 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom68 Constructive Critique Points
12 Aug 2014 - 4:36 PM


Quote: Starting out from scratch.............

I am assuming Ade has started this post on a photographic forum, where those responding would have some degree of skill in the proposed genre,
that they wish to turn pro in, in contrast to a random individual who decides to take up photography and make a business out of it?

Having said that, I believe that someone with good business skills and a good basic understanding of photography, has more chance of making a photography business succeed, than a very good photographer with little or no business skill.

The issue here, is whether you are able to build a business slowly - as in not having to rely on it as your only income, or whether, even with initial funding you need to make a success of your photography as a business, within a limited time frame like a year...

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014816 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
12 Aug 2014 - 5:40 PM

evolved a little Wink

was a thread more about what you'd like to spend each and every day doing with your camera.... and what you think you'd have to do were your living dependent on it.

You need a good years worth of cash and cut all costs to get going... and being willing to change and adapt is useful too.

I set out trying to do "everything" then started chopping away the bits which didn't work or which I didn't enjoy

family stuff went very early...

arhb
arhb e2 Member 72280 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom68 Constructive Critique Points
12 Aug 2014 - 6:50 PM

[quote]family stuff went very early...{/quote]

What's making up the bulk of your work Ade, without being specific Wink

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014816 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
12 Aug 2014 - 11:01 PM

Making business people look cool

Evertonian
13 Aug 2014 - 10:26 AM

Presuming the ability of the person is taken as read, I would do bread and butter work so that i can make a decent living whilst exploring other more lucrative avenues.

Weddings is a nice little earner, One wedding each week would bring in 1000.00 min. Arrange to meet with HR of all major employers within the area in which you would like to work and see what if any their requirements are. Usually these guys have in House magazines and it is very nice when the photographer has a good working knowledge of the product being produced. They also have advertising needs, award ceremonies, leaving dos 20, 25 30 year service awards all require a photographer. If they think not then convince them that they do. Newspapers often (well not so often now, they seem to want everything free) need freelance TOGS and so do estate agents. They tend to do their own but the standard is often abysmal. Convince them that they are not selling buildings which actually lean like their pictures show and that you will sell them ones of excellent quality which stand erect. I could go on now that I am retired but use some imagination and a good living is to be had.

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014816 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
13 Aug 2014 - 11:10 AM

some good ideas there


one mistake I made was to be "too general"

as in - everyone knew I was a photographer, but never really knew what I specialised in

that meant they could never really explain to their network what I did...

Now it's pretty specific and clear - and I make sure everyone knows what it is - it makes it a lot easier for people to refer me Wink

sort of counter intuitive - in that, the more you offer, the less you get... the less you offer, the more you get

TanyaH
TanyaH e2 Member 11534 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom40 Constructive Critique Points
13 Aug 2014 - 12:00 PM

That makes a lot of sense, actually.

I'd rather be a master of one trade, than a jack-of-all trades. Although being able to a bit of everything is useful, like you say - it doesn't really help you get known in a few select specialist areas.

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