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jondf
jondf  82475 forum posts
24 Apr 2011 - 10:21 AM

Over 80,000 people are claiming incapacity benefit due to obesity and alcohol/drug related dependency.

Say their each receiving 75 a week. That equals 75 x 80K = 6 million per week = 312 million a year.

Total annual incapacity benefit bill to the treasury is currently more than 7 billion with over 2 million claimants (nearly 3% of the population)

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answersonapostcard
answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012602 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 10:27 AM

how can anyone support a habit on 75 per week, I have enough trouble getting to the end of each month on a salary!

Last Modified By answersonapostcard at 24 Apr 2011 - 10:28 AM
lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014128 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 10:52 AM

It all makes for great headlines, but they don't seem to come up with any joined up answers to the problem.
If someone is alcoholic or a drug addict they can't hold down a job for any length of time.
If you cut their benefits you will see an increase in crime with a subsequent rise in prison population and policing costs.
Getting them on treatment plans seems like a sensible option.. only most of those are being cut and they are probebly more expensive than just paying the benefits.

Sus
Sus  93183 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 11:07 AM

Planning developers now have to pay for environmental mitigation and providing green openspace with new developments that they build.

I would like to see mitigation costs put on food/drink manufacturers, for the damage to public health.

Obesity clinics sponsored by Coca Cola, there's a thought...

sherlob
sherlob e2 Member 82317 forum postssherlob vcard United Kingdom125 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 3:14 PM

Well said lobsterboy - its easy to criticise those with addiction, but regardless of the popular myth addiction is an illness and stopping alcohol or drug addiction is a damn site harder than is often given credit for.

StrayCat
StrayCat e2 Member 1014694 forum postsStrayCat vcard Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 7:44 PM

You are your brother's keeper.Wink

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014128 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 8:46 PM


Quote: You are your brother's keeper.Wink

Who told you about that? We never talk about it.
Ok so we keep my brother in the cupboard under the stairs, but he is perfectly happy there honest.

polis_928tadw59

lobsterboy, I hope you are not claiming benefits for him, because if he is under the stairs, in your secret dark-room, developing your films, then he is gainfully employed. I will not snitch on you if I can send my films for developing at a price 20p cheaper than the local chemist's shop.Grin

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014128 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 9:12 PM

Why not - since I went digital he has been complaining about being bored. I have tried him on photoshop but his claws just don't seem to be able to work the mouse.

jondf
jondf  82475 forum posts
24 Apr 2011 - 10:00 PM


Quote: how can anyone support a habit on 75 per week, I have enough trouble getting to the end of each month on a salary!

I expect claimants will get other add-on benefits.....council tax, free prescriptions, school meals, rent paid etc.

Phil-LS
Phil-LS  11632 forum posts United Kingdom
24 Apr 2011 - 10:11 PM


Quote: I expect claimants will get other add-on benefits.....council tax, free prescriptions, school meals, rent paid etc

If your only on incapacity benefit your not entitled to other benefits like free prescription's as it's not a means tested benefit.

You would need to put in a separate claim for income support to get the other benefits.

cantona43
cantona43 e2 Member 9884 forum postscantona43 vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 10:37 PM


Quote: Over 80,000 people are claiming incapacity benefit due to obesity and alcohol/drug related dependency.

there are also thousands more with these "Illnesses" that get no help at all

answersonapostcard
answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012602 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 10:39 PM

The benefit system seems so complicated I'm surprised anyone can fiddle it :O

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139395 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 11:40 PM

I don't know all that much about the benefits system - except that I've spent my entire working life paying for other people's benefits.

I'm sure they are all ever so deserving!!! Wink

Terry L
Terry L e2 Member 10577 forum postsTerry L vcard England5 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2011 - 11:49 PM

Don't tar everyone with the same brush, I am recovering from mental health issues and have been claiming Incapacity Benefit for 3 years after having a breakdown, photography has been the one thing that has stopped me going right over the edge.

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