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Iraq: Re-writing of History by MOD


gcarth e2
10 2.3k 1 United Kingdom
14 Mar 2008 3:03PM
I was horrified by the Independent headlines this morning:
"Iraq: Teachers told to rewrite history."
The MOD, it seems, deem it necessary to brainwash our kids into believing most of the already discredited myths about the Iraq war.
The MOD want schoolchildren to be taught that the reasons for going to war with Iraq were WMD's and the removal of Saddam Hussein.
As we all know now, the WMD's affair was all lies and back in 2003 Blair said that regime change was not on the agenda.
The MOD stress the rebuilding of Iraq without mentioning the terrible destruction of power and water supplies that they had incurred in the first place. More important, not one word was mentioned about innocent civilians killed or the illegality of the war.
Coming so soon after the baloney about allegiance to Queen and country, this surely indicates where we are going...

Garth

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lobsterboy e2
11 14.2k 13 United Kingdom
14 Mar 2008 3:19PM
14 Mar 2008 4:19PM
I'm struggling to see what this has got to do with photography.........or am I missing the point????
paulcr 10 1.5k 9 Ireland
14 Mar 2008 4:21PM
Its certainly not the first time they've "rewritten" history. its usually done by ommission, and I'm pretty sure it won't be the last..

Paul
Cephus 10 2.2k England
14 Mar 2008 4:21PM

Quote:I'm struggling to see what this has got to do with photography.........or am I missing the point????



It's in the Off-Topic discussion section!!!!

Wink
gcarth e2
10 2.3k 1 United Kingdom
14 Mar 2008 4:35PM

Quote:It's in the Off-Topic discussion section!!!
LoL! It's alright, he's from Barcelona! (Juan McDowallaga - Scottish/Irish descent!
Never mind, John. I've made a few boobs myself on this forum - and you're not the first one to make that particular mistake!
Anyway, welcome to the discussion!

Garth
SuziBlue 12 16.2k 10 Scotland
14 Mar 2008 5:35PM
Reminds me of reading my grandmother's school history textbooks which trumpeted Victoria as a gift from God and how she and her Empire had brought such good things to the 'savages' of the world ..!! Britain did no wrong at all and it was everyone else's fault for being forrin in the first place Wink

Incidentally I think the MOD are seriously underestimating the intelligence of kids of today, who when they're interested and involved are generally are very well up on things like this no matter what the spin is from the MOD and the government. Anyone remember the big furore about schoolchildren wanting to take to the streets and protest about the Iraq war? .. those schoolchildren interviewed about why they were taking part were so informed and aware of the realities it would shame some politicians let alone some of the public who were happy to parrot the government spin.
spaceman 10 5.2k 3 Wales
14 Mar 2008 5:36PM
Makes me wonder what the "D" in MOD actually stands for.
spaceman 10 5.2k 3 Wales
14 Mar 2008 5:37PM

Quote:Coming so soon after the baloney about allegiance to Queen and country, this surely indicates where we are going...



Iran.
Snapper 9 3.8k 3 United States Outlying Islands
14 Mar 2008 7:25PM

Quote:I'm struggling to see what this has got to do with photography.........or am I missing the point????


Apart from it being in the Off-topic forum, this is the same government that wants to treat you as a (potential) terrorist every time you take out a camera in a city centre. I'd say that's relevant enough!
gcarth e2
10 2.3k 1 United Kingdom
14 Mar 2008 8:59PM

Quote:Reminds me of reading my grandmother's school history textbooks which trumpeted Victoria as a gift from God and how she and her Empire had brought such good things to the 'savages' of the world ..!! Britain did no wrong at all and it was everyone else's fault for being forrin in the first place Wink

Incidentally I think the MOD are seriously underestimating the intelligence of kids of today, who when they're interested and involved are generally are very well up on things like this no matter what the spin is from the MOD and the government. Anyone remember the big furore about schoolchildren wanting to take to the streets and protest about the Iraq war? .. those schoolchildren interviewed about why they were taking part were so informed and aware of the realities it would shame some politicians let alone some of the public who were happy to parrot the government spin.

Your'e so right, as usual, Suzi!
After getting myself all wound-up about this issue, I calmed down and decided that this latest MOD nonsense could be a good thing because such stupid ideas could prove counter-productive and serve to highlight again the sheer hypocrisy and mendacity of government propaganda. As you say school kids are not as stupid as the MOD.

Garth
SuziBlue 12 16.2k 10 Scotland
14 Mar 2008 9:12PM

Quote:this latest MOD nonsense could be a good thing because such stupid ideas could prove counter-productive and serve to highlight again the sheer hypocrisy and mendacity of government propaganda


.. and you're so right too, again, Garth!

Extraordinary to think that some grey suits somewhere think this might actually work - when what it does is reinforce public scepticism towards the supposedly accountable people grouped round the cabinet table. Exactly how much does the government have to hide to justify this kind of ludicrous liemongering - more than a few dodgy dossiersful, I'll be bound 8-]
Carabosse e2
11 39.7k 269 England
15 Mar 2008 3:31PM

Quote:Reminds me of reading my grandmother's school history textbooks which trumpeted Victoria as a gift from God and how she and her Empire had brought such good things to the 'savages' of the world ..!!


Yep - it is a historical fact that history gets rewritten from time to time. Wink

The communist regimes were experts.....


Quote:Incidentally I think the MOD are seriously underestimating the intelligence of kids of today


Indeed - and that they have access to the internet too. Children are not dependent on the traditional media.

The fact that the war of words over the rewriting issue immediately appears on the internet and will be read by the very kids they are trying to, erm, "educate", just makes MoD look foolish.

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