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Is Canon 650D better with a Hoya UV filter? UV filter from Jessops or none at all?

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    CatLover
    CatLover (Junior Member)
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    4 Jan 2013 - 12:12 PM
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    Hi everybody!

    Can anybody tell me if I should put a Hoya UV filter on my new Canon 650D camera?

    My dad is going to buy me a this camera and I wanted to know if I should get a Jessops UV filter for £19.99 or a Hoya Japanese filter 58mm for £38.99 or if I should get any UV filters at all.

    Some people say you should always have a UV filter to protect the expensive lenses, and some people say the photo will not turn out as good looking if you put a UV filter on.

    What do you guys think? Should I get a cheap one from Jessops, a Hoya for £38.99 or should I not bother? Please tell me your experienced opinions!!

    If anybody has got this same Canon and wants to share some info with me, please drop me a line! Im a beginner and this is my first DSLR!! Yayyy!! So happy!!

    Thanks guys!

    Angela the Cat Lover

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    f11digital
    4 Jan 2013 - 12:21 PM
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    I wouldn't recommend putting a UV filter on your new DSLR - they are not needed nowadays and will also degrade the image as a result. As far as having one on there to protect the lens, I have yet to crack my glass on anything and utilise either my lens cap or lens hood (or both) for protection.

    John

    mikehit
    mikehit (e2 Member)
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    4 Jan 2013 - 12:27 PM
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    If you are buying a quality filter like the Hoya Pro1 D I think you will be very hard pressed to tell the difference with or without the filter. I use one because I can be clumsy.

    The objections to filters are usually theoretical: they can't improve the image so some prefer not to take the chance. The question is at what price do detrimental effects of filters become obvious? I use the Hoya Pro series and can see no drop in image quality - I suppose at £10 a cheap filter could almost be disposable and be worth trying out to compare images with/without the filter.
    The reductionist argument is that if they did cause provable degradation, there would be no discussion on the matter.

    Having said all that there are times I have had a filter cause internal reflections in extreme circumstances such as night time shooting with a light source at the edge of the frame.

    Enjoy your camera - it is an excellent one!

    Last Modified By mikehit at 4 Jan 2013 - 12:28 PM
    arhb
    arhb (e2 Member)
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    4 Jan 2013 - 12:35 PM
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    Hi Angela,
    unless you are very clumsy, and are prone to touching the lens glass with sticky/dirty fingers, dont bother with the UV filter.
    As John(f11digital) states, always use the lens cap and hood, and your lens should be fine.
    Maybe use the money to buy a lens cleaning set.

    sherlob
    sherlob (e2 Member)
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    4 Jan 2013 - 12:38 PM
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    I use UV filters for protection on all my lenses other than my 17-40mmL where stacking filters causes vignetting when I use square ND grads. I have never noted a drop in image quality on any of the lenses with filters applied (I have a couple which have jessops own UV filters) and I think Mike has a point about 'at what point is it noticeable'. In contrast the coating on my 17-40mm lens are most definitely showing signs of damage - not because I am clumsy (although I am Wink), but rather from repeated cleaning and wiping the front of the lens. e.g. to clear sea spray. Currently, this isn't a major issue although I suspect that it is contributing to a few issues with reflections when using square filters. I'd rather shell out another £50 on a replacement filter than the £500+ it will cost me to eventually replace the lens.

    Stick a UV on the lens - it will give you peace of mind if nothing else. It will also potentially help you maximise any re-sale value on the lens.

    mikehit
    mikehit (e2 Member)
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    4 Jan 2013 - 1:32 PM
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    One comment worth making is that UV filters are not needed for digital cameras - they were invented in the film days and film is susceptible to UV light giving a 'haze' effect. Get a clear 'protective filter' as they are sometimes cheaper.

    redsnappa
    4 Jan 2013 - 2:03 PM
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    Quote: they are not needed nowadays and will also degrade the image as a result

    Does anyone know exactly how much image quality will be lost by using uv filters such as the Hoya pro 1d?

    JN_CHATELAIN_PHOTOGRAPHY
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    4 Jan 2013 - 2:20 PM
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    The Hoya pro 1d is perfectly fine (that's what I use). You need to have super duper eyes or be extremely fussy to see a difference between a photo taken without a filter and one without.

    You need to protect your lens from dirt, sand, water ...etc... I have scratched filters in the past when cleaning them and when walking through brambles, forests ...etc... I would have been very upset/annoyed if I had damaged the front element of the lens.

    mikehit
    mikehit (e2 Member)
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    4 Jan 2013 - 2:30 PM
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    There is no hard information and if you google 'UV filter image degradation' you will find little to confirm either view.
    http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/B-W-UV-Filter.aspx
    http://www.photopathway.com/using-uv-filters-for-protection-right-or-wrong/

    However, here is one of the rare examples of someone putting their money where their mouth is and shows the effects of 'cheap' filters:
    http://www.kenandchristine.com/Other/Equipment-Tests/Filter-Tests/1054387_ZLJFtM...

    I think it is worth buying one anyway: do your own tests, and if you think the image is affected keep the filter anyway as a reserve for those days you are shooting on the beach (abrasive effects of windblown sand and saltcan be murderous) or in wet conditions - I find it easier to wipe a flat filter surface than a surved lens surface (and as Sherlob says I would prefer to wipe a filter repeatedly than risk damaging a lens surface with frequent wiping).

    Last Modified By mikehit at 4 Jan 2013 - 2:30 PM
    CatLover
    CatLover (Junior Member)
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    4 Jan 2013 - 6:48 PM
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    WoW! You guys on here are really helpful and GREAT!! Thank you for all your advice. I am so glad I joined this website.

    I make and sell costume earrings and wanted this camera to take photos of my earrings on a pure white background without using photoshop afterwards.

    Making photos on a pure white background is harder than it looks. I had 2 photographers say they could do it and so far both have not been able to do it with their DSLR.

    So as soon as I get my camera, Im going to try it out. This is going to be my first DSLR a Canon 650D with a 55mm lens. Finally! I have waited so long to get a DSLR and shoot in RAW.
    My old bridge camera is a Panasonic Lumix FZ-18.

    I have taken a 10 week (few hours a week only) photography course before, 3 years ago, but it did not cover all these buttons! There are a lot of buttons on this camera.

    If there is anybody who would like have fun taking photos with me, please drop me an email. Im hoping to make new photography friends I can learn from and chill out with.
    Age is irrelevant if you have got things in common. So doesn't matter if you are older or younger than me.
    I like taking photos of buildings, portraits, animals and product photography (I make earrings). I have CS5 and still figuring out how to use it!

    If you would like to make friends with a fun and crazy Canadian lady, then email me and tell me which part of London you are from!
    Maybe we can start a SW photography friendship group?

    Hugs from a tree hugging hippy Chic,
    Angela

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