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steve neil
20 Dec 2005 - 9:46 PM

Good thread. All I can add is


Quote: I was getting small "tractor" lines where the little wheels are under the cover

You can remove those tractor wheels. I did so from my Epson 1290.


Quote: If you want ultra quality prints then untick high speed in the print options box.


I thought that High Speed meant the printer head prints in both directions and therefore quicker but not at the cost of quality.

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NikH
NikH  10524 forum posts England
20 Dec 2005 - 11:12 PM

Ian, v good thread and thanks for sharing. Just adding my twopenneth for, erm, future reference :o)

Westers
Westers  93905 forum posts Burkina Faso1 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 1:50 AM

Lol - good contribution Nik Wink

Not sure about the high speed print impacting quality..it's just everything I've read says to untick it and it doesn't really make print times slow. A4's are out of the printer in a couple of minutes.

One other thing. When you go into the printer properties display I usually just select best photo in there instead of either photo or photo RPM. From what I've read the photo RPM is the best but at A4 size you'll not notice any difference (if you magnify it by about 300% you'll start to notice, lol). So all photo RPM does is use even more ink for no gain at A4.

So far I've done a few more prints with it and the output is about as close as I could expect colour wise. Some subjects don't need so much yellow saturation as others but that's just an experience thing. A small point 'cos the photos are close enough to what is on the screen to be acceptable.

Oh, and Epson premium gloss does give a superb finish.

keithh
keithh  1022789 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 1:56 AM

Using the printer head in one direction does have an impact on quality.

Using Relative Colourmetric will allow mean that out of gamut colours are reproduced the closest to the intended colour.

Westers
Westers  93905 forum posts Burkina Faso1 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 2:15 AM

Confused now.

So should I by setting it to high speed print?

keithh
keithh  1022789 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 2:17 AM

Untick 'High Speed'...unless you need the print 30 seconds quicker.

digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 2:20 AM

If you have it set to high speed it also loads the paper double quick. This can make the load process less accurate or, if you are really unlucky, screw the paper.

I always have my R800 set to high speed off and have never had any complaints about the print speed.

Ian

Westers
Westers  93905 forum posts Burkina Faso1 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 2:36 AM

So is non high speed where the print head prints in each direction?

If not, is the Relative Colourmetric setting the one in PS?

digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 2:45 AM

Looks like the high speed setting is the one which prints in both directions.

Keith, can you explain about the difference in quality when printing in one or both directions and which is supposed to give the best quality?

Ian

keithh
keithh  1022789 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 2:56 AM

Best quality is single direction prining as opposed to Bi-directional (high speed). The head makes a pass and lays down the ink, then returns without printing and goes again. Best quality is achieved by the head working the ink in one direction.

digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 3:02 AM

Thanks Keith, glad your explanation fitted with what I have always done. :0)

Ian

IanO
IanO  11195 forum posts Scotland
21 Dec 2005 - 4:58 AM

Can anybody tell me if all of the above excellent stuff posted by Westers would also apply to the R2400? I got mine last week, and although the first couple of prints on Epson premium gloss looked excellent, when I tried to use matt, the colours went way off (too much cyan). Sound like a profile thing.
Ian

Westers
Westers  93905 forum posts Burkina Faso1 Constructive Critique Points
21 Dec 2005 - 6:29 AM

Matt isn't that great with the R1800 on their's or Ilfords paper. I haven't played with the settings yet but yes it does sound like a profile thing.

I think it would be worth investing in a proper profile being made as by the time you've faffed arround you'll have used a set of inks, paper, and a whole load of heartache.

Ian, look here for the R2400. That's the site I got the setup for the R1800

barnowl
barnowl  8697 forum posts
21 Dec 2005 - 11:53 AM

Been scratching my head with this colour management business and have followed this thread with interest. Some of the stuff here is worth a read.

Gary

IanO
IanO  11195 forum posts Scotland
22 Dec 2005 - 4:41 AM

Thanks Westers, that looks useful, I'll give it a try over the holidays. I've also got profiles for the Permajet and Hahnemuehle papers from their web sites. Can see me needing to buy lots more ink over the holidays. Hope some of the suppliers are working!
Ian

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