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Israel to stop water fluoridation because of health risks

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Kako
Kako  8140 forum posts
18 Sep 2013 - 4:53 PM

I've just read that the Israeli policy of compulsory water fluoridation is to be phased out by next year after a legal challenge highlighted adverse health risks associated with the fluoride. Several places in the US are also starting to phase it out for similar reasons.

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saltireblue
saltireblue Site Moderator 43917 forum postssaltireblue vcard Norway25 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 6:44 PM

And what are these health risks?

Last Modified By saltireblue at 18 Sep 2013 - 6:46 PM
Kako
Kako  8140 forum posts
18 Sep 2013 - 7:24 PM

The most serious are said to include:

1. Lowered IQ

2. Brittle bones and teeth

3. Damage to Thyroid

keithh
keithh e2 Member 1023038 forum postskeithh vcard Wallis and Futuna33 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 7:32 PM

One of the reasons that they are removing it is because they want to target sections of the community who would benefit from fluoride rather than hit a mass market, many of whom do not drink tap water anyway.


Not quite the same is it.

saltireblue
saltireblue Site Moderator 43917 forum postssaltireblue vcard Norway25 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 7:32 PM

Interesting.
A legal challenge highlights health risks, but have any medical authorities published any conclusive findings about the long-term effects of fluoridation?

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315365 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 7:34 PM

Yes what are these health Risk.

Fir starters fluoride naturally occurs in water in varying amounts, in parts of the country were levels are low the drinking water is topped up with fluoride.

Fluoride is harmful but only at high levels, much higher than the levels found in water and tooth paste.

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014142 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 8:03 PM


Quote: The most serious are said to include:
1. Lowered IQ
2. Brittle bones and teeth
3. Damage to Thyroid

Considering the length of time we have had fluoridation, shouldn't we be seeing an epidemic of these issues ?
Seems little evidence of it being a problem to me.

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315365 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 8:25 PM

Its nothing but scare mungering Chris Smile

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014142 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 8:39 PM

Colour me surprised Paul Smile

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315365 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 8:50 PM

We are more at risk of other additives being added to the water supply in large quantities Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelford_water_pollution_incident

indemnity
indemnity  6329 forum posts
18 Sep 2013 - 8:58 PM

Think they're hopelessly optimistic if the intention is to raise the IQ of the population by removing
Flouride, and its the least of the hazards faced in Israel.
Better education and diet might be a more realistic starting point.

Kako
Kako  8140 forum posts
18 Sep 2013 - 9:43 PM


Quote: One of the reasons that they are removing it is because they want to target sections of the community who would benefit from fluoride rather than hit a mass market, many of whom do not drink tap water anyway.


Not quite the same is it.

The Israeli Supreme Court judgement noted the fact that the Health Minister of Israel had voluntarily agreed to phase out fluoridating water after several months of stalling tactics. The 'benefits' of adding fluoride to protect childrens health in that they ever existed at all are far outweighed by the dangers to peoples health, particularly chronically ill people and those with thyroid problems. If these so called 'benefits' you mention are so widely accepted then why do most countries in the world not compulsorily fluoridate...the US fluoridated population comprises about half of the entire world number... One thing is sure though, without this legal challenge the authorities in Israel would not voluntarily have agreed to its removal. It will take a legal challenge in this country for the same thing to happen here

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315365 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
18 Sep 2013 - 10:00 PM


Quote: The 'benefits' of adding fluoride to protect childrens health in that they ever existed at all are far outweighed by the dangers to peoples health, particularly chronically ill people and those with thyroid problems

Sorry but I fail to see the dangers of fluoride to people suffering from Thyroid conditions and diseases.

petebfrance
18 Sep 2013 - 10:10 PM


Quote: The most serious are said to include:
1. Lowered IQ
2. Brittle bones and teeth
3. Damage to Thyroid

Considering the length of time we have had fluoridation, shouldn't we be seeing an epidemic of these issues ?
Seems little evidence of it being a problem to me.

Nah, nobody's noticed '2. Brittle bones and teeth' or '3. Damage to Thyroid' because of '1. Lowered IQ' Smile

Kako
Kako  8140 forum posts
18 Sep 2013 - 10:16 PM


Quote: The 'benefits' of adding fluoride to protect childrens health in that they ever existed at all are far outweighed by the dangers to peoples health, particularly chronically ill people and those with thyroid problems

Sorry but I fail to see the dangers of fluoride to people suffering from Thyroid conditions and diseases.

Apparently Fluoride is linked with an increased risk of hardened arteries (atheroschlerosis) and thus with cardiovascular disease...some studies have gone further and found a direct causal link between the amount of fluoride consumed and the severity of the above condition. Loads of information about this online if you are interested.

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