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well its seems Ive come to a little bit of a hurdle.
I used to work for a camera shop not long ago and since then have been dabbling in the world of freelance photography.
While I was working for the camera store I was considering upgrading from film SLR to a digital SLR, now as soon as I mentioned Canon the faces of everyone around me went sour and I was told that canon was a big no no, and until today I havnt actually been told why, and in my opinion they are actually pretty nice.
Now in the end I went for a KM7D - as there was a great offer on them at the time.
unfortunatly Ive been having a problem with the CCD since I got it - and its presently with KM for cleaning.
With this and the news of KM being taken over by sony I have been seriously been thinking about trading over to a Nikon set up.
BUT recently I havnt heard the best thoughts from people about their Nikon kits.
SO bassically Im asking;
> How do people rate the KM7D for a start?
> how do people rate the Canon EOS 5D compared to the Nikon D200?
> and finally is there really something bad about canons?
Thanks alot for your opinions
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Quote: and finally is there really something bad about canons?
Only if spelt with 2 n's and you are facing the wrong end of one.
Generally if people rubish something, but can't come up with anything specific they are full of BS.
Can't help with the ratings things as I have never used any of those cameras.
What is you total budget (including lenses)? and do you still have any of of your film kit and if so what is it?
Your Minolta is capable of good photographs, so assuming it gets fixed you will have a camera as capable of taking a good photo as a 10D from Canon or a D70 from Nikon. So step 1 is it sensible to trade that camera in? Will you not lose money on doing this?
If all it needs is cleaning then that it is part of life with a dSLR and learn how to clean it for yourself. Honest, it is not difficult just scarey.
The D200 and 5D cost a whole lot more money, where Canons 30D or Nikons D70S would be the more logical alternatives to your KM camera.
If you decide yes then see the amount that has been written on 5D V's D200.
Couldn't tell you about the D200 or the 5D as I've not handled either, but I can tell you that there's absolutely nothing wrong with Canon cameras - recently upgraded to a 20D from a KM DiMage A1. The 20D is a great bit of kit.
The D200 and 5D are both higher spec than the 20D so I suspect that they're both superb. The D200 is a crop camera though (DX format sensor), and the 5D is full frame so they're not really directly comparable? Don't know if this is something you would want to include in your consideration
Nothing wrong with Canon.
There is a bit of partisan rivalry between owners of different brands (Nikon v. Canon especially) but it usually is fairly light hearted. They might have just been down on Canon because they bought something else themselves. Or maybe Canon didn't give the shop a good enough profit margin, something personal like that.
yes.. sorry for my terrible spelling there.
Well I still have my KM7D stuff - KM 17-35 and an old sigma 75 - 300.
My film stuff is totally useless for digital as its all manual focusing and apature setting (as its used for an OM 10)
ooh budget.. well I havnt really thought about that too much because I can just work up the cash but I guess its about 2000 - 2500 (including lenses)
Ive worked out that for a D200 including a sigma 18-200,sb600 speedlight,spare li-ion battery and MB- d200 grip its going to cost around 1885.
But im a tad concerned about all these issues arising about the Nikon ranges.
can you shed any light on these situations?
Thank you all SO much for your help, its nice getting varied opinions as ive found alot of reviews on the internet wont just get down to it and say if the camera is actually worth buying.
Ok so Its been established that Canon and Nikon are both good companies, and that my KM is a pretty good camera.
So if I want to upgrade from this camera - whats my best option?
I think your lens choice is wrong. Why are you using a Sigma 18-200. Its a compromise lens I hear great things of the new Nikon equivalent.
But why are you ditching the KM. Sony are taking over the range, there is a promise of new cameras keeping the mount going for a while.
What type of photography are you going to do? That sets the choice. The 5D has great resolution and full frame. The D200 better environmental sealing.
But if it is for professional use is the 1D series better for you
Photography monthly recently reviewed the nikon DX AF-S 55-200 F/4 - 5.6 G ED and were extremly dissapointed - and in the end the Tamron AF 55 - 200 equivalant came top.
The reason for my choice of a 18 - 200 of some description (exactly what lens is not yet totally decided due to the articles showings) is that I have had a cameras sensor damaged in the past permanantly because of a lens change - and it seems alot more sensible to only change a lens when it is actually nessacary - therefore having a lens such as an 18- 200 which covers more focal legths seems alot more worth while. Do you not agree?
On the front of "dictching" my KM - im not set on this - im just running through the possible ideas to find the best final answer.
Sony in my eyes should stick to what they are actually good at - making audio equipment. Though their sensors in the KM cameras have been good - im not entirely sure they are up to making the entire camera.
Have to agree with Strawman, good glass should take priority over the body. I would have thought a dirty sensor should be easily resolved, in which case stick with what you have got, and get some good glass with that budget.
you need to go into a camera shop which has both of your intended purchases and have a look at both of them.check which one handles and feels right for you.I pesonally found the canon too complicated, too many buttons and dials to press and turn.But i found the nikon more to what i was used to using which was a k m film camera.Hope this helps a little, but at the end of the day it's your money & your decision,i hope you buy the right one.
The KM7D is an excellent camera. I did a lot of soul searching last year, and spent a lot of time annoying my local camera shops trying it out with my Minolta lenses, in different settings, In the end I decided that I couldn't justify the cost, and bought a KM A2 . . . What a bad move, looking at Warehouse express Theres a great deal to be had on it and If I had some spare cash I'd buy it now.
Another alternative . . . Sony do what KM did with the 7D . . Produce something that doesn't compete or improve on the current competition . . . . They market it poorly and just don't meet customer expectations. . . . Well Look at the affordable alternatives . . . Canon 5D Or the D200 (Or Pentax's new offering) . . . . For my photography the D200 is the better choice. I borrowed one from my local Jessops at a very nearby Rally stage, and wow was I impressed. Didn't hit the buffer at all shooting RAW, In fact I took my finger of the shutter as I thought something was wrong.
I've not tried the 5D but I bet its a great camera as well. Why the D200? Its a crop camera - most of my photography is done at the long end so the apparent increase in focal length is a plus point . . Ok I have to buy One dedicated wide angle but the Sigma 10-20 is a nice piece of glass (Used one on a Canon this weekend . . . cracking). And its a semi pro spec very much like the Minolta 700si's that I currently have.
If I was in your shoes, I would invest in some good glass for the KM7D . . . and a good cleaning kit . . . Sony will be supporting the Minolta A mount, and with access to Zeiss lens technology then we should see some good things.
I'm with Photogeek, hang on to the 7D until it is really necessary to change. Use some of your budget to get some better glass, not sure what you have at the moment, but if you want some original minolta lenses then there's bound to be some on eBay or many of the second hand shops like Mifsuds or ffordes. The KM 17-35 is a good lense, but in place of the Sigma 75-300 you could go for a KM 70-210 f/4, an older but cracking lens and really sharp. A 50mm 1.7 can be had s/h for around 40.
Now if you certain about moving to another brand, then as others have said, annoy you local camera shop again for a try of those you've mentioned.
This is an expensive game as it is, and I think we need to be more than certain that we to change/upgrade.
You will (almost) never find a pro using anything but a canon or a nikon - they are the best!
Best built, best results, best designed, best performance, best range of lenses etc.. that work with them... hell, best at everything!
Sports togs love canon because the AF is second to none and press guys like nikons cos they're indestructable!
Iv got a 7D and went through this debate with myself some months ago before the sale was announced but whilst it was looking unstable for minolta. I ended up getting aload of better glass - 80-200 G lense, 28-70 g lense and a sigma 10-20. Im now really well covered for what I do and am happy with my kit (although it all weighs a ton - might change the 28-70 at some point for something lighter). I think too many people are running the megapixal race - when it comes down to it the 7D is a hell of a camera that only falls down in a couple of areas. If these areas effect what you do then maybe look at changing but it could be worth seeing what sony pull out of the bag.
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