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Hi everyone.
I am 100% self taught and currently admiring many photographers landscape photographs.
Also new to using Photoshop CS5.
I also have and are currently learning all the relavant filters ie: ND, Graduated and polarisors etc plus of course long exposures so i fully understand how the pictures were achieved in theory and with some practice so far.
But of course theres an element of photoshop afterwards to achieve the quality and colours etc
My question is...
http://nexusimages.co.uk/
http://www.blurredvisionz.com/
My question is, in reality? how much of the photograph is as taken and how much is photoshop?
As you only ever see the completed image and it would be great to see a before and after photoshop sample and roughly how long it took to achieve.
I know the time all depends on your ability on photoshop but just curius of seeing before and after shots to appreciate just how much has altered from the image taken.
I am a huge fan of photoshop but like to spend as much time as possible out taking the pictures and like many, not spending forever sat at the PC.
Basically i am looking to invest in my photography and despite having a wishlist for lenses, lee filters etc, i also need to upgrade my PC and screen ..
So where to prioritise the money to achieve these results in the future...
I know many answers will say ... BOTH! lol
Thanks
Andy
Do you think you would prefer to get the picture right in camera or spend ages on each picture afterwards?
Personally, I think you should aim to get as much right at the time of shooting to make the later part easier, and it sounds like you prefer the shooting to the manipulating anyway.
Absolutely true is the saying about a silk purse from a sow's ear... if the photo is rubbish, no amount of PS trickery will make it anything else but rubbish.
Also, everybody has a wishlist, but you should aim in the first instance, to get the most from the equipment you already have. Only when you identify a distinct shortcoming in your kit should you consider buying more.
A good screen is an advantage, but plenty can be done on an older PC, just a bit slower. Make the most of what you have first before spending lots of money.
Nick
Thanks Nick for such a constructive answer..
Being 100% self taught and personally do not know any other photographers, then you naturally lack some confidence and seek advice occasionally from others...
As you say, i do prefer to focus achieving the best from taking the photograph in the first place as personally to me the pleasure is in the outdoors and taking the photograph, as i am sure others enjoy the manipulation with photoshop.
We all enjoy every aspect in photography in different measures, and even i admit some HDR if not too cooked can look stunning!
I guess i am at 50/50 at identifying the need to better lenses, filters etc and the need for a bigger screen, faster pc etc.
Just be nice to see some samples from photographers who have take such pics as to the contrast and difference in pictures as taken by the camera and that after photoshop to see just how much can be achieved by photography alone.
Am not asking for trade secrets or tips or anything?
I know i`ll get the "go on a photoshop/Photography course then?" answers... lol
I fully intend to attend courses in 2012.
Just looking to prioritise money in the right place first...
Thanks Again Nick
Keep your money and only spend it when you have to. Buying something you don't use is wasteful.
It depends on what equipment you already own, but...
If you have not got accessories for landscape, I would suggest starting with a polariser and ND graduate filters. If only one, I would get a 2-stop hard grad first.
Hello.
maybe you know, maybe you dont but blurredvision is Paul Morgan and he is a member on this site.
Paul is really a really helpful chap and has done both before and after workflows together with other detailed images and is most helpful. he can probably link you to the ones he left on epz and in the forum. click here
he also has a cd for sale, its all you will ever need to know
no one better to ask or to help you
Phil
Quote: The websites you listed belongs to PMorgan and AmandaBroughton here in EPZ.
Why not send them a message and ask them? I am sure they will tell you.
Hi
I have written to P Morgan and looking to purchase his DVD, Thanks.
Also i have written to Amanda saying Hi and commenting on her site but to no reply.
Thanks for the info.
Andy
Quote: I'm not a landscape photographer but the tools I have found most helpful are Soft 9 ND Grad and use bracketing . Use some HDR software to convert but keep as natural as possible.HTH
Thanks Cathy
That filters on my list! with others to add to my collection,
I agree on the HDR also on landscapes, Thanks.
Andy
Quote: Hello.
maybe you know, maybe you dont but blurredvision is Paul Morgan and he is a member on this site.
Paul is really a really helpful chap and has done both before and after workflows together with other detailed images and is most helpful. he can probably link you to the ones he left on epz and in the forum. click here
he also has a cd for sale, its all you will ever need to know
no one better to ask or to help you
Phil
Thanks, have written to Paul on his site and plan to buy his DVD, stunning pictures!
Thanks
Andy
Here are a couple of examples of Paul's latest before and after shots from his PF:
Hartland
Mermaids Song
He's an all-round top bloke and very approachable!!!
Don't forget though that the originals in these are the straight RAW files and as yet have not had any adjustments prior to PhotoShop.
Quote: Here are a couple of examples of Paul's latest before and after shots from his PF:
Hartland
Mermaids Song
He's an all-round top bloke and very approachable!!!
Don't forget though that the originals in these are the straight RAW files and as yet have not had any adjustments prior to PhotoShop.
Hi Sut68
That is exactly what i was thinking about and looking for!
Perfect!
A perfect contrast and example of what can be done and has been done to achieve these stunning shots!
You see all these amazing photographs and especially when new to landscapes and photoshop you can get very disheartened when your best results seem so far off and you genuinely dont realise that sometimes you aren`t that far off after all!
Thanks for the links..
I will definately be snapping up his DVD now..
Thanks again
Andy
i tend to use half and half but always try to get the photo right i camera
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