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Lighting, triggers and portability


20 Feb 2012 2:14PM
I want to use flash outdoors in order to light mainly couples and maybe small groups such as a family of 4 or so. Currently I have 2 x Bowens Gemini 400w heads and wonder if it's worth getting a Bowens travel pak (499) to power them when outside or to power just one light and use it with daylight and a softbox attached. Or is there another way of powering outdoors other than a generator or just buy something along the lines of a Quantum Turbo and beauty dish.

I am also thinking of getting something along the lines of a 580EXII to have behind the subject, or would a Nissin or Jessops own be a better option, happy to set them up with a light meter using flash on manual.

Then I'm going to need flash triggers would like pocket wizards but wonder if I can use cheaper triggers instead then if all goes to plan upgrade the triggers in the near future to pocket wizards or similar.

Any ideas or thoughts greatly appreciated, I keep looking at various flashes and battery packs and going around in circles

In a nushell I want to light the couples so that there are no dark shadows under their eyes and want to use natural light and take in the surroundings outdoors.


Thanks for any help

Stu

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ade_mcfade e2
10 15.1k 216 England
20 Feb 2012 2:46PM
Nissin get my thumbs up, and it you look at Richard Spurden's fashion work, you can see they work nicely - he uses them and I think he's got a 580 EX2 as well.

if you're happy using manual flash and light meters, do you need pocket wizards when Pixel do reliable triggers at a fraction of the cost?

if you want ETTL, then Pocket Wizards all the way
Seculine triggers are well made and reliable and cheaper than PWs ..but not ettl . They have announced the release of PW3s today which are priced at $139 not sure what UK pricing will be though
JackAllTog e2
5 4.0k 58 United Kingdom
20 Feb 2012 4:23PM
The new PocketWizard Plus III http://www.pocketwizard.com/news_events/news/plusiii/
Transceiver features 32 channels and Selective Quad-Zone Triggering!
cameracat e2
11 8.6k 61 Norfolk Island
20 Feb 2012 5:00PM

Quote:if you want ETTL, then Pocket Wizards all the way


That used to be the case, But " Pixel Pro " are now doing ETTL triggers ( Tranceivers ) that are in thier second generation of development, According to some they are every bit as good as a Pocket Wizard, Just a whole lot cheaper.....Grin

Check out the whole Pixel Pro Range here.....!!!

In case your wondering the company at the end of the link are very good to deal with, I have bought loads of stuff from them, Almost always next day delivery to....Wink
jimthistle73 e2
10 2.4k 1 United Kingdom
20 Feb 2012 5:04PM
If you've got the cash, drop it on a Quantum outfit. I don't and get everything I need with a few Nikon speedlites firing in Manual mode, set off by THESE triggers - I have three of them now - one on the camera and one for each speedlite.

That's more than enough to 'lift' your subject. A few mates and I tried going down the generator route whilst messing around at uni, and found that we would need a genny the size of a transit van to get enough voltage for two flash heads.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
20 Feb 2012 5:09PM

Quote:I am also thinking of getting something along the lines of a 580EXII to have behind the subject


Plenty of units for 5 or less that can do an equally good job Smile
21 Feb 2012 7:46AM
Thanks all, as I'm at work today I shall have a read through the links Smile


Stu
22 Feb 2012 8:42AM
Coleslaw e2
9 13.4k 28 Wales
25 Feb 2012 6:02PM
Good reading.
Just wish there are more responses...Smile
Coleslaw e2
9 13.4k 28 Wales
5 Mar 2012 9:12PM
Right guys, I need your advice here as I am new to strobist.
I want to get into more location lighting stuff to open up another dimension on my photos.
I have a 580EXII. I am after:
2 extra speedlight (maybe YongNuo YN-560?)
wireless trigger + 3 x receivers (maybe RF-602? I don't really know)
2 softboxes
2 lightstands & whatever brackets/clamp etc I need to mount the softbox/speedlight etc.

Of course I want to keep the cost down as much as possible, but I want the 3 lights setup for a reason. I don't really care how difficult it is to do 3, I will crack it eventually.
So, any suggestions on the kits would be much appreciated.

Cheers.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
5 Mar 2012 9:33PM

Quote:& whatever brackets/clamp etc I need to mount the softbox/speedlight etc


I swear by these Col

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Interfit-INT326-Strobies-XS-Bracket/dp/B002X6XE0C/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_4

If your not needing ttl there`s a choice of hundreds of flash units.
Coleslaw e2
9 13.4k 28 Wales
5 Mar 2012 9:36PM
manual would be fine.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
5 Mar 2012 9:38PM

Quote:manual would be fine


A couple of quid for each flash unit should be enough then.
Coleslaw e2
9 13.4k 28 Wales
5 Mar 2012 9:39PM
like what? needs to be powerful enough though.

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