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    RichardN00
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    31 Jan 2007 - 2:40 PM
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    My wife (SWMBO) is an enthusiastic member of a small amateur Belly Dancing group and has recently talked about me taking some portrait shots of members the group in their costumes.

    I’ve been looking to get a small portable lighting kit for some time but haven’t been able to justify it. This seems a good excuse to finally take the plunge.

    What are people’s thoughts as to what sort of lighting I’d need for the shoot given conflicting needs. Most of the members are not in the first flush of youth which would suggest use of a diffused, soft light so as not to show up every wrinkle, however the costumes are very brightly coloured with lots of glittery bits which would suggest a harder, direct light to make them sparkle.

    Another consideration is that there is a fair amount of flesh on show when they wear their costumes; I don’t want to have to spend too much time in Photoshop adjusting flesh tones Smile

    Other considerations are

    Cost; ideally around £200 - £250 for the initial set up

    Weight, I’d be doing the shoot at the rehearsal venue which is several hundred yards from the car park and up several flights of stairs.

    Time to set up each portrait, there are about 20 members and I’d hope to complete the shoot in one 2 hour session.

    I thought of something like this

    I’d appreciate any comments/thoughts

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    stevekhart
    31 Jan 2007 - 2:45 PM
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    Dlite2 set togo highly recommended

    Sus
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    31 Jan 2007 - 3:24 PM
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    I did some portraits of a belly dancer recently, I would suggest the diffuse glow effect in Photoshop post shoot (Luminous landscape do a tutorial this shot shows an example of the effect with a link to the original tutorial. It's quick and easy, and very effective/flattering!

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    Mike Otley
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    31 Jan 2007 - 6:28 PM
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    Gotta 'bite'...


    Quote: SWMBO

    Explain please??

    Smile

    Boyd
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    31 Jan 2007 - 6:30 PM
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    She Who Must Be Obeyed.

    Aren't you married Mike?
    ;o)

    In answer to the original question, you could probably get away with a soft box and a reflector.

    joolsb
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    31 Jan 2007 - 6:32 PM
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    Do you remember a show from the '80s called 'Rumpole of the Bailey'? It was Rumpole's nickname for his wife...

    keithh
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    31 Jan 2007 - 6:56 PM
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    Oh the mirth
    Wink

    RichardN00
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    31 Jan 2007 - 8:04 PM
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    Thanks Steve, I've looked at the Dlites, They look a good set, I was hoping to start with somthing a bit cheaper but I suppose you get what you pay for.

    RichardN00
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    31 Jan 2007 - 8:11 PM
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    Thanks for the link Sus, I hadn't thought of using that effect but I can see that it will work well.

    I am hoping to get away with minimum of photoshopping, I like working in PS but the idea of working on 20 or more pics one after the other is daunting

    Sus
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    1 Feb 2007 - 8:10 AM
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    here - I've uploaded my favorite from that night

    It really isn't that daunting - particularly if you set up an action to do it.

    RichardN00
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    1 Feb 2007 - 7:47 PM
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    Beautiful shot, the soft effect is definately quite flattering, ideal for the type of shot I'm aiming for. The simple lighting is very effective too.

    I'm newbie at this type of photography but I would guess that it was lit with just a single light?

    My only reservation is that the softening has made the coins on the costume look slightly tarnished, however I think that the 'girls' (their description not mine!) would prefer this to something that shows every wrincle & blemish

    Sus
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    1 Feb 2007 - 8:31 PM
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    From what I remember there were 2 flashheads - a softbox on one side, and probably a snoot or umbrella (bounced) on the other side.

    If you are comfortable with using layers, I find them very useful just to put one over another, then using an eraser brush with varying opacity, to reveal more of the lower layer. So for example in this instance, I would put softened layer over unsoftened - alter opacity of the top layer to reveal some of the lower layer anyway, then take an eraser brush with say between 30-50% opacity and erase even more of the softened layer on parts I wanted to keep sharp - this in effect reduces the opacity even more over those parts and brings them back to the sharp original.

    A good point about the coins - if I've kept the PSD I'll see if I can adjust it.

    kaybee
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    1 Feb 2007 - 9:43 PM
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    So long as you are not trying to light a barn your suggestion is a good starter kit. It would be ideal for the sort of thing Sus has posted.

    Roy

    Sus
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    2 Feb 2007 - 1:09 AM
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    Tato Olivas - that's the guy I was thinking of. Evocative black and white low key flamenco dancing. Lovely stuff - look it up.

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