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    stevewh
    28 Oct 2003 - 1:09 PM
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    Hi All

    This is my 1st post and I am having a few problems.

    I am using two studio flashes to photograph my companys products for our website.
    We need the items on a white background.
    I seem to be plagued with a greyish background on every shot. If I up the lighting my shots are just getting overexposed.

    At the moment I have 1 diffuser lamp angled at the front at about 45 degrees and the product about 6" back from this. And one lamp on the background.

    Anyone got any ideas what I can do ?

    Many thanks in advance

    Steve

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    Steve,

    What are you metering off ?

    It sounds like you either need to meter from a mid-tone rather than the white background or the product or take an incedent light reading.

    What kind of light meter are you using ?

    Of course you could be suffering from light fall off. Had you thought about upping the power of the rear light compared to that of the one on the product ?

    Mike

    cool cat
    28 Oct 2003 - 1:34 PM
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    To get a white background you need it to be at least 2 stops brighter than your subject. This allows the background to go white and not grey.

    Check out the studio lighting section on this site and then have a look at the following links:

    webphoto school

    photoflex

    Look at the "free" section on the first site. There are some great articles on how to do still life / products.

    Cheers

    Rob

    stevewh
    28 Oct 2003 - 1:38 PM
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    Hi Mike

    Thanks for your reply.
    I'm doing an incedent reading getting F8 @ 60. The light meter is a Sekonic L308BII.
    I've tried upping the light on the rear and I seem to get quite a lot of overexposure on the rear of the product.

    Am I right using both lamps or can this be done with just a single lamp and light diffuser ?

    Steve

    cool cat
    28 Oct 2003 - 1:55 PM
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    If the back of the product is overexposed you have to move it further away from the background. One light should be fine if you use a white / bright reflector to fill in the shadows on the other side.

    stevewh
    28 Oct 2003 - 2:10 PM
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    Hi Cool cat thanks for the advice. I'm very
    new to photography. You said
    "To get a white background you need it to be at least 2 stops brighter than your subject"

    Is this the apeture I have to change or the lamp settings ?

    mad-dogs
    28 Oct 2003 - 3:25 PM
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    It depends on whether you are using colour neg or transparency.

    If you are shooting on neg., notify the lab that you are using a white background otherwise they might assume grey.

    The best way is to shoot in a cove or on white opal perspex which you can light from behind to over-expose.

    cool cat
    29 Oct 2003 - 9:50 AM
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    The light on the background has to be two stops more powerful than the subject light.

    peterh
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    608 forum posts United Kingdom
    29 Oct 2003 - 12:48 PM
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    Take an incident reading at the subject and a reflected reading from the background and make a 3 stops difference (2 stops should be enough but you can't overexpose white really can you?) Using the set up you describe you could be throwing shadows, however diffused, onto the background you really need a third, reduced power light directly behind the camera to fill these shadows, reflectors aren't always enough depending on the size and complexity of the subject.
    You could always try digital re-touching if all else fails.
    Now you know why professionals charge so much for product shots!!!!!!!!!!!!

    stevewh
    29 Oct 2003 - 1:57 PM
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    Hi Peter

    Thanks the info. It makes alot of sence now. I'll give it a go

    Steve

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