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How are you all getting on in using LR 4 ?
Have you worked out the best workflow with the new Basic sliders ?
Split toning used twice now - on the last upload, just the highlights were given a blue tinge which i liked - it seemed to not affect the mid tones too much at all.
Also i almost always's now use correct for lens distortion and see images pop up a bit brighter at the edges with my 24-105mm lens on aps-c sensor.
I wish this was the first tick box before exposure. But i think you can turn it on by default during import - just no time yet to see how.
Quote: I accept your point, its just when multiple users experience the same problems that are often simple enough to have been eradicated in the first place.
One of the first things you learn when you start developing is that users are far better at breaking things than developers. That's partly because there are a lot more of them and partly because they don't know how they should be using the software. It isn't necessarily that they are using it incorrectly (though that is sometimes the case), just that they have a different workflow and certain sequences of events can find bugs when the same test with a different sequence doesn't.
When you consider how complex such software is it is no surprise that volume testing throws up issues and that is another reason software houses release early. Their developers and testers could spend thousands of hours on an application and not find a problem that gets picked up amongst the thousands of early adopters within a couple of days.
Quote: They have almost certainly been through a rigorous testing process. But code is many 10,000 times more complicated than a bike frame and much more abstract.
Absolutely agree, the bike frame comment was to illustrate a principle 
Quote: One of the first things you learn when you start developing is that users are far better at breaking things than developers. That's partly because there are a lot more of them and partly because they don't know how they should be using the software. It isn't necessarily that they are using it incorrectly (though that is sometimes the case), just that they have a different workflow and certain sequences of events can find bugs when the same test with a different sequence doesn't.
When you consider how complex such software is it is no surprise that volume testing throws up issues and that is another reason software houses release early. Their developers and testers could spend thousands of hours on an application and not find a problem that gets picked up amongst the thousands of early adopters within a couple of days.
No argument here
Quote: Their developers and testers could spend thousands of hours on an application and not find a problem that gets picked up amongst the thousands of early adopters within a couple of days.
Except that in this case there were an awful lot of people complaining about the slowness of LR4 during the beta testing and all we would hear back is "Don't worry as this is a beta version the software has not been optimised yet. It'll be fine" Yeah, right!
No speed problems on my machine with the latest version (win 7 64bit, I5 CPU and 6gig RAM)
I'm finding the revised sliders suit my workflow well now I'm used to them and like Jack, apply the lens correction as part of my standard processing.
I particularly like the way the new Clarity slider improves the right images (its not a "must use" but its pretty darned useful to have "under your finger" when needed)
So far I'm liking it although has anyone found that the "Paste Settings" button sometimes needs to be pressed twice to get it to apply the copied setting?
Is it possible to get the upgrade cheaper than £62?
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Also i almost always's now use correct for lens distortion ....
I wish this was the first tick box before exposure. .
Certainly agree with that. It should be the very first step in the workflow.
Must say that' like Brian 1208, I am finding speed impressive - considerably faster than v3.61. That with i7 processor, 16 gigs of Ram and a fairly fast 2Tb hard disc.
Quote: Is it possible to get the upgrade cheaper than £62?
Have a google for
"complimentary upgrade to Lightroom 4"
i think its free if you bought it in the last month or so...
Quote: But i think you can turn it on by default during import - just no time yet to see how.
Got me on that one... I do not know as my lenses are not supported in the Camera / Lens profile list.
One way would be to create a user preset and apply that on import... but I guess that would only work if every shot being imported was with the same lens.
What I will be doing at some point is adding the new Chromatic Aberration correction in my "import" preset.
Stuart,
You should be able to do the lens correction automatically.
Please Note.
I do not have the camera / lens combination so it is showing as a "Custom" set up.
For you select "Auto" as the Setup and because your lens is in Adobe's database it will automatically get the lens details from the EXIF data.... no need even to select "Make", "Model", "Profile"
Give it a try and see if it works ! !
Quote: No speed problems on my machine with the latest version (win 7 64bit, I5 CPU and 6gig RAM
Quote: I am finding speed impressive - considerably faster than v3.61. That with i7 processor, 16 gigs of Ram and a fairly fast 2Tb hard disc.
This is good news. Most of the speed grumbles on the Adobe forum seem to be from Mac users. I have been holding off upgrading but perhaps I will go for it now (bugs and all)
It should be OK on my Win 7, 64 bit, i7 and 8GB of RAM and Sata 3 HDD.
Just an update.
I downloaded and installed the upgrade to LR4 this morning.
It all went smoothly, all images rendered using the 2012 engine (hardly any change in appearance), all my Collections are intact and my personal preferences and settings brought over.
Most importantly, it it fast so I am a happy bunny.
Quote: Stuart,
You should be able to do the lens correction automatically.
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Give it a try and see if it works ! !
Thanks Jeff, i tried that and its all fine - its quite quick so i select all the images i've just imported - (or Starred) and move into the develop module - then apply en mass.
I then tried to see if i could add it to the preferences on import, but you can only add file name changes and tags etc.
Cheers
Stuart
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