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Hey Guys & Ladies,
It is my first time ever trying to succeed in getting the all-famous wate crown 
I Havent Done Too Bad, Out Of Around 200 Shots I Got Around 5 i like lol.
Well i was wondering if anybody could give me some tips or ideas on how to improve the following image(s)
Any Help Would Be Cool, As Im Always Looking For Something To Do =D
Thanks in advance.
edited by epz - Boyd is correct 
NB(Higher Res Image Available)
Load it into your gallery. The mods don't like no off site linkin'. Unnerstand?
You could always put it into the critique gallery so that people realise that you're serious.
For water crowns you could talk to the queen of splash that is Cheryl 'The Peril' Surrey.
She's probably drunk by now, laying in wait for some unsuspecting victim but it might be worth pmailing her in the morning.
Quote: Load it into your gallery. The mods don't like no off site linkin'. Unnerstand?
For water crowns you need to talk to the queen of splash that is Cheryl 'The Peril' Surrey.
She's probably drunk by now,
LOL
I thought Cheryl had done something for the Techniques section - couldn't find hers but there is this one
I did a write up on one of my shots, here
The crown is just one of the earlier points in the rebound.
Without a trigger system it really is a matter of luck what part of the rebound you capture. That said if you set up a system to generate the drips (I use one of those bags for drip feeding plants whilst on holiday) and send that through a tube on which I have placed some micro irrigation tubing and a valve to alter flow. In this way you can get into the speed of the drip and get a much higher hit rate of the point that you want.
I did do an article for Photography Monthly and before that for one of the digital mags and I could let Pete have the one for PM if it is of use to people. I was thinking, but never got around, to putting it on my website. I really should do that sometime.
HTH
Frustrating but also rewarding.
Stu, that's a bit of a fallacy. Typically video framerates are 24, 25 and 30 frames per second. So the shutter speed of each frame is between 1/24 and 1/30.
The kind of detail you see in the drip shot would be blurred.
Even the futuristic Red camera can only manage 1/120th and that's at a reduced 2.3MP resolution.
Quote: Typically video framerates are 24, 25 and 30 frames per second. So the shutter speed of each frame is between 1/24 and 1/30.
This is incorrect actually.
Typical video shutter speed is 1/60sec, but many camcorders will allow you to set a much faster, or slower, speed. A consumer unit like the Canon HF11, for example, allows you to set up to 1/2000sec (the slowest speed on that cam is 1/2sec)
Setting a high shutter speed should enable you to pull much sharper "action" stills from the video. Of course there has to be sufficient light, but with typical camcorder lenses being around f1.8 this isn't usually too much of an issue.
Yeah you're right and you're wrong. You can turn on a high speed shutter. It's not the same as shooting a DSLR at 1000 frames a second, nothing like it.
At the typical 1/60th the CCD only captures one field, not one frame. (For NTSC) 1/50th for PAL. You need two fields for a frame, so the typical 1/60th is really just 1/30th for a full frame.
I'm not convinced about the figures in your link (especially the half a second, how does that work when you play it back at 25 frames a second?) You might be right, but that camera also shoots stills.
Quote: Yeah you're right and you're wrong.
No.... just entirely right! 
Quote: not the same as shooting a DSLR at 1000 frames a second, nothing like it.
What are you on about? Who said it was? 
Each frame has to be captured whether it is at 24, 25 or 30fps. That capture is at a certain speed: it can be 1/60sec (the 'norm') or 1/2000th or even (as in my toy camcorder - Panny SDR-S7) 1/8000sec. And yes, that is video and not stills.
An example of increasing shutter speeds here.
With slow shutter speeds, when the shutter speed is 1/30sec or below, you are losing every other line of resolution in your camcorder (unless you are shooting progressive). At 1/15sec there will be visible stuttering. At 1/4sec the video will be poor and will show a lot of blur. But in very dark situations it could be the difference between getting the footage and.......... not!
Hope that helps.
Quote: I read the same page just before I posted to check if you were right.
I have to admit I too struggled with the concept of slower-than-framerate shutter speeds, but I read up quite a bit before posting. There is other stuff on the web which confirms it.
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