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colin beeley
colin beeley e2 Member 111070 forum postscolin beeley vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
16 May 2009 - 7:49 PM

there is only one thing wrong i can find with it , its bloody heavy !

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LenShepherd
LenShepherd e2 Member 62460 forum postsLenShepherd vcard United Kingdom
16 May 2009 - 11:15 PM

Go here http://www.richardrevelsphotography.com/page25.htm
I have shared rooms with Richard in the Falklands.
Richard is the same Richard Revels who gets pictures in most editions of the RSPB magazine.
Hardly any of the shots were taken at longer than 100mm - and some at about 28mm.
A cropped sensor, 100-400 and 1.4 is as long as you need. You do need 28mm - or wider with a cropped sensor body.
The light is very bright - though perhaps 2 days in 2 weeks you cannot walk into the wind.
In all Richards shots backpacking half a mile to 3 miles was involved so weight is a consideration.

colin beeley
colin beeley e2 Member 111070 forum postscolin beeley vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2009 - 8:54 AM

link

eonisuk
eonisuk  7108 forum posts England
17 May 2009 - 4:34 PM


Quote: It is get a canon ef 300 2.8 L IS + 1.4 extender !

how about the 400 L 5.6 which is more in the price range how good does that work with the 1.4
or now i have read more maybe a 300 f4 with 1.4

after all its for wildlife mainly and sports if i cannot get close

have heard conflicting remarks on the 100 -400 re the push pull bringing dust into the body

all replies welcomed

and thanks again for all the replies

eon

Last Modified By eonisuk at 17 May 2009 - 5:05 PM
colin beeley
colin beeley e2 Member 111070 forum postscolin beeley vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2009 - 6:27 PM

read here for canon lens tests.

Last Modified By colin beeley at 17 May 2009 - 6:29 PM
justin c
justin c  104519 forum posts England36 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2009 - 6:34 PM


Quote: have heard conflicting remarks on the 100 -400 re the push pull bringing dust into the body

Having used the 100-400mm for the last eight or nine years I've never once had an issue with dust in the slightest.
In fact the 100-400mm has been my most used lens by a huge margin compared to the others lenses I own, most of which have been owned for less than a quarter of the time I've had the 100-400mm, there is no more dust inside the 100-400 than any of the others, whether they be prime, or zoom lenses.

colin beeley
colin beeley e2 Member 111070 forum postscolin beeley vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2009 - 8:30 PM

nor have i yet, but i have only had mine 18 months.

eonisuk
eonisuk  7108 forum posts England
17 May 2009 - 10:12 PM

who said photography was easy

taking the pictures is the easy bit finding the kit you want is a different matter

eonisuk
eonisuk  7108 forum posts England
17 May 2009 - 10:18 PM

ok

i think its time to vote

do i get a

300L is F4
400L f5.6
100-400L

a 1.4 converter

or will my 70-300 is do the job with a converter

this could be an interesting vote

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
17 May 2009 - 10:26 PM

For wildlife or birds mainly, I would go for 400F5.6.
If you want more flexibility, go for 300f4 + 1.4x

eonisuk
eonisuk  7108 forum posts England
18 May 2009 - 9:02 AM


Quote: For wildlife or birds mainly, I would go for 400F5.6.
If you want more flexibility, go for 300f4 + 1.4x

thanks for that

glsammy
glsammy  7194 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
18 May 2009 - 9:45 AM


Quote: For wildlife or birds mainly, I would go for 400F5.6.
If you want more flexibility, go for 300f4 + 1.4x

The 300mm F4 with a 1.4X works well, although the 1.4X does slow the AF performance but the optical quality is excellent. The main advantage the 300mm gives is closer focusing. (1.5mtrs against 3.5 mtrs for the 400mm.) how useful will that be to you?
Both of those options are comparatively light.
If you think your subjects will be more than 3.5mtrs, then go for the 400mm F5.6. L. Its AF performance is superb, especially for birds in flight. Optically there's nothing in it between those two, both are top quality, and as you shouldn't have a problem with light levels the fact the 400mm is F5.6 shouldn't be a concern.
I'm speaking from my own experiences here, I had the 300mm F4 and ended up swapping it for the 400mm F5.6. purely because of the poor AF performance.
I've never regretted it.Smile
One other point, the 400mm F5.6 can give excellent results with a 1.4X TC, providing you can manually focus. If you've got some more distant relatively still subjects, this is could be a definite advantage. Here's a recent shot I took with that set up. link

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justin c
justin c  104519 forum posts England36 Constructive Critique Points
18 May 2009 - 11:26 AM


Quote: or will my 70-300 is do the job with a converter

It's already been pointed out that that lens isn't compatible with a Canon extender/converter.

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
18 May 2009 - 11:39 AM


Quote: If you think your subjects will be more than 3.5mtrs, then go for the 400mm F5.6. L. Its AF performance is superb, especially for birds in flight.

From what I have been reading and pming a few epzers so far, that is true.
I have been thinking of the same question myself for few weeks now. But as I only do occasional birds and wildlifes, normally doggies and close ups, I have ordered a 300 F4 + 1.4 x myself. Otherwise, I would have gone for the 400 F5.6.

glsammy
glsammy  7194 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
18 May 2009 - 12:56 PM


Quote: Quote:If you think your subjects will be more than 3.5mtrs, then go for the 400mm F5.6. L. Its AF performance is superb, especially for birds in flight. From what I have been reading and pming a few epzers so far, that is true.
I have been thinking of the same question myself for few weeks now. But as I only do occasional birds and wildlifes, normally doggies and close ups, I have ordered a 300 F4 + 1.4 x myself. Otherwise, I would have gone for the 400 F5.6.

If I didn't do so many birds in flight shots I'm sure I'd still have the 300mm plus 1.4X. For any other subjects, it's a magic combination.

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