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    Big Bri
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    19 May 2009 - 12:45 PM
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    I have a very specific shot in mind that involves photographing a wine glass against a black background.
    I've tried this before but not been very successful. Can anyone point me at a tutorial ?

    Edit: and it can't involve anything expensive like a lightbox

    Last Modified By Big Bri at 19 May 2009 - 12:49 PM
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    Coleslaw
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    19 May 2009 - 12:48 PM
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    That is pretty vague, Bri.
    More info?

    Big Bri
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    19 May 2009 - 12:51 PM
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    Er... I want to photograph a wine glass, with a completely black background.

    I would like advice on... lighting and backdrops. Don't want to spend much (any) money, so I need to use either household lighting or a 550EX (which can be off camera).

    Big Bri
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    19 May 2009 - 12:52 PM
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    All the tutorials I've looked at use lightboxes. I did that when I did my C&G, but I don't have access to a lightbox now.

    Big Bri
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    19 May 2009 - 12:57 PM
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    Something similar to this

    But I don't have any studio lighting....

    Mike Otley
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    19 May 2009 - 12:58 PM
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    Quote: ...but I don't have access to a lightbox now.

    Muslin hanging in the window and a sheet of styrene foam/cooking foil et al on the other Bri..??

    Smile

    rowarrior
    19 May 2009 - 12:59 PM
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    PM me or bump this thread later to remind me when I get home Bri, I'm sure I have a small lightbox I got free ages ago that I could send you if you wanted to give that a go (I have a big one myself, so never use it)

    Pete
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    19 May 2009 - 1:02 PM
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    Sounds like a good challenge Bri. A wine glass, a black background and only using household light. I'll see what I can come up with tonight and if I manage it I will photograph the set up. Anyone else fancy a go?

    Mike Otley
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    19 May 2009 - 1:03 PM
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    I would but I have a dead printer to pull apart this evening Sad

    Big Bri
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    19 May 2009 - 1:05 PM
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    Thanks Katy, that's extremely nice of you Smile

    In general terms, what's the best background for getting it completely black in the shot (without too much work in Photoshop) ? I have some black cloth, but it never comes out black and you can see all the creases! Smile

    Coleslaw
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    19 May 2009 - 1:06 PM
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    Just make sure no light fall on the backdrop, and enough space between backdrop and subject, then should be fine.

    mad-dogs
    19 May 2009 - 1:19 PM
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    Glass is best lit from behind. try something like this...

    Get an A3 sheet of tracing paper, velum or greaseproof paper and stick an A4 piece of matt black paper in the middle.
    Place this behind the glass so the background immediately behind the glass is the black paper.

    Fire the flash from behind and the tracing / greaseproof paper will give a rim lighting on the glass.

    Place a piece of white card / polystyrene to one side and slightiy in front of the glass to give 'modelling' reflection down the side.

    Place the glass to be photographed either on glass or on top of an inverted glass to get a reflection.

    Here is an example using the above method and here.

    Last Modified By mad-dogs at 19 May 2009 - 1:26 PM
    Pete
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    19 May 2009 - 1:31 PM
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    Quote: what's the best background for getting it completely black

    Black velvet - it absorbs almost all the light.

    pennyspike
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    19 May 2009 - 1:43 PM
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    I used a method very similar to this years ago when a friend wanted to catalogue his glasses used for engraving. I was working with b/w film a sheet of plate glass with black velvet background .
    It is very important to cut out any stray light.

    JamesBurns
    19 May 2009 - 2:56 PM
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    Quote: Black velvet

    Alannah Miles?
    Wink

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