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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73818 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 1:40 PM


Quote: Applying an unsharp mask after scaling down isn't an unusual technique. In fact, Photoshop does it automatically. We have setup the unsharp mask to work in the exact same way these popular image editing packages work to ensure photos don't become more blurry due to resizing. We aren't over sharpening or trying to sharpen things that aren't, we are just compensating for the blurriness that occurs when photos are resized (just like in Photoshop).

Thats only true if you resample bicubic sharper in photoshop Wink

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davidburleson
davidburleson ePHOTOzine Staff 72302 forum postsdavidburleson vcard United Kingdom
23 Oct 2012 - 1:43 PM

I think Photoshop applies some unsharp mask to some extent with each type of resampling. We did some comparable tests and it was pretty accurate to photoshop's results which for 99.9% of users, its a good thing Smile

Jestertheclown
23 Oct 2012 - 2:02 PM

I get the impression that I'm seeing an admission here that shots uploaded to Epz., do indeed, suffer in the transition.
Something that I've been saying for ages and which has been denied, equally, for ages.
I'm not sure that I like the sound of all these wonderous things that David guarantees that "I'm going to want to use."

Quote: Without them, you are going to have alot of work in front of you to get things running.

From the sound of it, our own version of our own images will no longer be any use.

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 23 Oct 2012 - 2:03 PM
cattyal
cattyal e2 Member 95990 forum postscattyal vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 2:12 PM

After David's intriguing comment I'll start uploading full sized versions from now on Smile

davidburleson
davidburleson ePHOTOzine Staff 72302 forum postsdavidburleson vcard United Kingdom
23 Oct 2012 - 2:15 PM


Quote: From the sound of it, our own version of our own images will no longer be any use.

I know i'm being a little vague with my comments, however, ePHOTOzine as you know it won't change whatsoever and you will be able to continue to use and upload as you currently are. However, these new secret features can only be used where high-res versions of the photo have been uploaded. Not to worry, we will provide an easy way to upload high-res versions of photos you previously uploaded if you wish to do so.

Last Modified By davidburleson at 23 Oct 2012 - 2:16 PM
Jestertheclown
23 Oct 2012 - 2:21 PM


Quote: After David's intriguing comment I'll start uploading full sized versions from now on Smile


It's what's going to happen to them that could be a concern.


Quote: these new secret features

Thanks David.

Call me a sceptic if you will but I shall wait and see.

JJGEE
JJGEE  96219 forum posts England18 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 2:27 PM


Quote: new secret features can only be used where high-res versions of the photo have been uploaded

Launch of e3 membership coming as well Wink

High resolution images could imply being used for printing / selling or as what has been debated from time-to-time an image library.

davidburleson
davidburleson ePHOTOzine Staff 72302 forum postsdavidburleson vcard United Kingdom
23 Oct 2012 - 2:30 PM


Quote: It's what's going to happen to them that could be a concern.

Don't worry, the new feature i'm hinting towards will be an opt-in non-compulsive sort of feature.

Anyway, thats my break over, back to the lab and trying to put 1s and 0s together.

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014023 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 2:31 PM


Quote: new secret features can only be used where high-res versions of the photo have been uploaded

Oh Petes' porn collection is going public!

Alan_Baseley
Alan_Baseley e2 Member 13320 forum postsAlan_Baseley vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 2:33 PM

Come on guys give them chance. It's not as if David has said anything new, it's been mentioned several times in the last few months.
Let's wait and see before we all get the teddy bears ready.

Alan_Baseley
Alan_Baseley e2 Member 13320 forum postsAlan_Baseley vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 2:35 PM


Quote: Oh Petes' porn collection is going public!

How many Petes are there?

User_Removed
23 Oct 2012 - 2:39 PM


Quote: we will apply a unsharp mask to ensure the sharpness stays intact.


I don't know any photographer who would apply unsharp mask without preview enabled so they could fine tune the amount. Can't believe epz does this blindly.

davidburleson
davidburleson ePHOTOzine Staff 72302 forum postsdavidburleson vcard United Kingdom
23 Oct 2012 - 2:46 PM

It's been going on for quite some time, have you noticed as we do provide live preview before uploading. Not once have we had anyone mention anything about their photo being uploaded too sharp to the original however we had in the past people mention blurry photos.

Last Modified By davidburleson at 23 Oct 2012 - 2:49 PM
Alan_Baseley
Alan_Baseley e2 Member 13320 forum postsAlan_Baseley vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
23 Oct 2012 - 2:53 PM


Quote: That might explain why half of mine look OK on here and wrong on Epz.

I assume you've put in numerous reports about it then?

Jestertheclown
23 Oct 2012 - 2:58 PM


Quote: I assume you've put in numerous reports about it then?

There's no need for snide remarks.
I was actually re-writing my last post when you posted that.

I was going to say that while I've never posted a report on the subject, I have raised it more than once in the forums and it's been discussed in the CG on more than one occasion.

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