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VinceJones
22 Jan 2006 - 10:02 AM

I also have found some images that have been stolen, can I ask for advice please before I attempt to contact those concerned.

Stolen image links
Barn Owl 1 States (photo by Idie Ulsh) (Scroll down page for Barn Owl)

Barn Owl 2 For a good cause but without permission (Scroll down page for Barn Owl)

Our web site links to where these images have been taken from.
Barn Owl 1 3rd row left hand image

Barn Owl 2 2nd row left hand image

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keithh
keithh e2 Member 1023012 forum postskeithh vcard Wallis and Futuna33 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jan 2006 - 10:06 AM

Email them...remove or pay
sorted

barnowl
barnowl  9697 forum posts
22 Jan 2006 - 10:06 AM

Bloody hell Vince. I nearly had a heart attack when I saw your post Smile

mipettin
mipettin  10884 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jan 2006 - 11:24 AM

Out of interest how did you find them - i.e. when you say ..have found some images that have been stolen...

VinceJones
22 Jan 2006 - 11:31 AM

Juliette my partner was simply searching the image gallery on MSN & when the two above images came, on clicking on them she noticed they linked to the above sites. Barn Owl 1 states it was taken by Idie Ulsh & it wasn't. How can he say that & who the hell is. Thats what I call theft & as for the other site permission as not been granted for its use, not by me anyway.

Big Bri
Big Bri  1315581 forum posts England
22 Jan 2006 - 11:33 AM

Idie Ulsh appears to be a prolific "photographer" and butterfly expert. Wonder how much of her other work is stolen?

Why not write to her at:
P.O. Box 31317, Seattle, WA 98103
and ask Smile

or email her at wabutterflyassoc@earthlink.net


go on

VinceJones
22 Jan 2006 - 11:39 AM

Hi Bri,

Thanks for the email contact of Idie Ulsh

I have now sent this email to the webmaster of the site & also I have copied it to Idle Ulsh

I will be interested in the reply I get back.

Copy of email sent

To whom concerned

Can someone please contact the Barn Owl Centre regarding an image that as been found on your web site. I cannot recall giving permission for its use & it was definately not taken by the person whos says it was taken by.

I look forward to an emailed reply or an email from the photographer, Idie Ulsh

Kind Regards

Vincent Jones
Centre Director
The Barn Owl Centre
www.barnowl.co.uk
Tel: 01452 865999
Mob: 07932 429540


Image concerned can be found using the below links

Stolen Image
Link
Barn Owl Image (photo by Idie Ulsh) (Scroll down page for Barn Owl Image). Can you tell me who Idie Ulsh is.

Our web site links to where this image has been taken from. (Copyright applies)
Link
Barn Owl Image can be found 3rd row left hand side

NB: I have recorded the web page by doing a screen shot

Sus
Sus  93183 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jan 2006 - 11:47 AM

With organisations that are attempting to promote a good cause, I think a different approach.

While I do not condone the theft of these images at all - after all it would be perfectly easy to contact you to ask permission if they wanted to! - many of them will use inferior quality images of their own rather than pay money.

You might want to consider asking for a clear reference to the photographer under the photo, and a prominent link to your website if you think that the case.

Yes, I still think they should pay, and no, I don't think, when push comes to shove, they will. So better to get your centre advertised, than to lose out altogether.

I should post on here the drawing my colleague did of a water vole - because the organisation wouldn't pay for a "proper" artist to draw a picture for us they suggested she draw them herself. Now quite honestly the drawing she did put me off conserving water voles for life - I felt like putting poison down for the lot of 'em!

Sus
Sus  93183 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jan 2006 - 11:49 AM

ps in my post I'm referring to the site of Barn owl 2, not 1, where someone else has attributed the photo to themselves - different ballgame...

VinceJones
22 Jan 2006 - 11:55 AM

Sus, our images cost us time & money, I know its for a good cause but they could of at least had the decency to contact us and ask. This they didn't & as far as I am concerned they have been illegally used. I don't go taking images to promote our work without asking permission. A .gov organisation should know better!

Regarding advertising, the word Barn Owl or barnowl in Google's search engine puts us at the number one spot, we have enough work to last us a life time, any more work will keep me away from EPZ, I need some time to myself.

dougv
dougv Site Moderator 108376 forum postsdougv vcard England3 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jan 2006 - 11:59 AM

Number One eh?

In this case it is probably a bad thing!
If they are too lazy to ask permission they probably did a Google search and stopped at the first site they found...
:o(

Give em hell!

Doug ;o)

dave thelens
22 Jan 2006 - 12:00 PM

Look .... dont piss about ... if they have stolen ... the word is ... STOLEN ... your images .. screw them
Dave

VinceJones
22 Jan 2006 - 12:01 PM

Hi Doug, being high in the search ratings will have its problems I know but I agree with you that asking is better than taking

Dave, OK who should I contact about this?

I go back to my original sentence


Quote: I also have found some images that have been stolen, can I ask for advice please before I attempt to contact those concerned.

dave thelens
22 Jan 2006 - 12:05 PM

DO NOT PISS about with this ... send them a bill .. tell them to pay up or else

patters
patters  101786 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
22 Jan 2006 - 12:07 PM

ghostbusters?

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