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AndreaJ
AndreaJ  1 United Kingdom
19 Sep 2012 - 11:49 AM

I really hate the Justice system in this country...murderers being allowed bail????WTH?
I realise they need evidence to keep them locked up, but how can there be not enough evidence on 2 murders?
Government really have chopped their nose off to spite their face, less officers on the streets nowadays, but supposedly crime rate is going down, personally I don't believe that one!!

I do believe they should bring back the death penalty for cop killers, child killers etc etc....the is no deterrent for them, they not scared of the Police and if the do commit crimes it makes them look big to their mates!!

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Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139392 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 11:54 AM


Quote: I really hate the Justice system in this country

Which country's system would you prefer? Smile

JackAllTog
JackAllTog e2 Member 53534 forum postsJackAllTog vcard United Kingdom58 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 12:16 PM

It seems its not just him but other's that contributed to him remaining hidden from the police.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1589072_police-shootings-cons...

As said above for such planned police executions, Jury, Judge and 'throw away the key' in a bleak soulless place.

keithh
keithh  1022783 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 12:23 PM


Quote: but how can there be not enough evidence on 2 murders?

Why would there not be enough evidence?

Do not think of the death sentence as a deterrent - it is not and never has been. The death sentence is revenge.

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139392 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 12:31 PM


Quote: The death sentence is revenge.

Indeed. Pure and simple.

Doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent in those US states where it is retained.

TimMunsey
TimMunsey e2 Member 386 forum postsTimMunsey vcard United Kingdom
19 Sep 2012 - 1:25 PM

Remember the poor technician that has to push the button to do the dirty deed, would Norman Tebbit be willing? Killing a human
isn't what most of us wish to do for a living. As already said, some countries with super high crime rates have the death penalty, it
doesn't work basically.

PaulSR
PaulSR  8511 forum posts England
19 Sep 2012 - 1:39 PM


Quote: Remember the poor technician that has to push the button to do the dirty deed, would Norman Tebbit be willing?

I dont think he would bat an eyelid. you dont become a top politician if you are not willing to kill

mikehit
mikehit  46170 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 1:59 PM


Quote: you dont become a top politician if you are not willing to kill

What a crass comment.

Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73818 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 2:14 PM


Quote: Do not think of the death sentence as a deterrent - it is not and never has been. The death sentence is revenge.

Well said Keith.

Had we had the death penalty the Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Bridgewater 4 And many others would have suffered the death penalty. Ask yourself had you sat on the jury in a trial that resulted in the death penalty how would you feel years later if it transpired you had been responsible for the death of an innocent person?

The comment re Norman Tebbit is below the belt - put politics to one side, there is a man, and more particularly his wife, who has had to live with the consequences of extreme violence.

Last Modified By Nick_w at 19 Sep 2012 - 2:17 PM
thewilliam
19 Sep 2012 - 2:31 PM

Private ownership of handguns was banned after the Dunblane shooting, so how come every self-respecting criminal now seems to have a pistol or even automatic weapons?

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014018 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 2:33 PM


Quote: Private ownership of handguns was banned after the Dunblane shooting, so how come every self-respecting criminal now seems to have a pistol or even automatic weapons?

Ohh, just a guess...but is it because they are criminals ?

mikehit
mikehit  46170 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 3:03 PM

..because they obtain them illegally?



Next.....

mikehit
mikehit  46170 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 3:04 PM

Damn! got distracted an beaten to it...Tongue

Last Modified By mikehit at 19 Sep 2012 - 3:04 PM
col.campbell
19 Sep 2012 - 4:10 PM

Yeah well that's why the ban on handguns was but a knee-jerk crowd-pleaser. But let's not digress..

As far as deterrent/ punishment/ revenge goes, call it what you like but I'd have no problem sleeping at night after executing people who commit these sorts of crimes.

spaceman
spaceman  105166 forum posts Wales3 Constructive Critique Points
19 Sep 2012 - 4:26 PM

Since 1990, 1,433 people have died in custody or following contact with police in England and Wales

........."there have been no successful criminal prosecutions."

Where's the outrage?

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