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Quote: If we hadn't had Jazz we wouldn't have the large percentage of current music.
Absolutely! I love jazz - but I find myself being very selective. I find much jazz is unaccessible while other jazz is quite sublime. I think you have to compartmentalize the different strands of jazz - and listen to them in a different mode, according to your mood.
I prefer mainstream jazz i.e. the late great Humphrey Lyttelton to way-out Modern jazz.
Quote: I can just about cope with Ragtime or really old trad jazz but I would run screaming from the room whilst ramming knitting needles into my ears if I ever heard 'modern jazz' and scat would just push me right over the edge.
I have this theory that ladies are not that keen on listening to jazz. It's more of a male thing. Obviously, there are plenty of notable exceptions - with loads of superb female performers whether sax players - at least three come to mind that played in Humph's band - or vocalists - Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Annie Ross, etc. etc. etc.
Quote: Anything by Gracie Fields! Aaarrgghhh!!
I always thought that Gracie combined with George Formby were the reason we won the war. The pair of them would want to make anyone kill.
Jazz or country, the old school stuff was never my thing.
However the more modern stuff seems palatable.
What would have happened to the 80`s without Jazz 
Some of the rock cross over country is kind of cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5KF4dKq-6I
Quote: Anything by Gracie Fields! Aaarrgghhh!!
I always thought that Gracie combined with George Formby were the reason we won the war. The pair of them would want to make anyone kill.
Hey! I flippin' love George Formby!! My dad used to play it on his uke when I was a kid and we'd have a good old sing song.
Do you listen to him when you're using Windoze? 
Used to like MJQ, John Coltrane, Oscar Peterson, Humphrey Littleton, Chris Barber, Dutch Swing College Band and many others, as well as the big bands like Ted Heath etc.
Got them on vinyl somewhere, must have a root around and get the old turntable out.
Quote: Do you listen to him when you're using Windoze?
Used to like MJQ, John Coltrane, Oscar Peterson, Humphrey Littleton, Chris Barber, Dutch Swing College Band and many others, as well as the big bands like Ted Heath etc.
Got them on vinyl somewhere, must have a root around and get the old turntable out.
Yes: I liked all those bands, I wasn't into Ted Heath's music.
I also have Coltrane CD's but find some of his music a bit too way-out for my taste - I like most of Miles Davis's stuff, though. By the way, I was absolutely obsessed with Chris Barber's music for a huge chunk of my life. I still enjoy his music a lot but have developed a healthier appreciation of a wider spectrum of jazz players since, I think...
I like Classical and Blues too. I actually play a lot of Blues on electric guitar on a regular basis - not gigging - just practising and recording stuff at home on the computer along with backing tracks.
To get back to the original topic, one of my most hated numbers has to be "YMCA". Another truly awful one would be "My Dinga Ling" by Chuck Berry - I like much of Chuck Berry's music but what was he thinking when he produced and sang that tawdry and juvenile little number.
Oh, and how about the ghastly saccharine numbers like "Eidelweiss" and other dross from "The Sound of Music"?
Who remembers all those jazz festivals from the Sixties/Seventies ?
Like this one
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/show/july-6-1969
Or the early Reading festivals
We owe a lot to Jazz
Quote: We owe a lot to Jazz
We certainly do and it continues to be the case.
Two huge bands from the 1970's, Yes (in 2003) and Deep Purple (in 2006 & 2011) have played the Montreux Jazz Festival. Their music contains much that owes it roots to Jazz. Many a happy hour can be spent watching the concerts on YouTube (but probably only if you are a sad git like me who has too much time on his hands).
Quote: Many a happy hour can be spent watching the concerts on YouTube (but probably only if you are a sad git like me who has too much time on his hands).
here`s something then
Folk like Bod Dylan I could not stand, yet the music is going through a period of a revival of sorts, I followed this lot before they made it, just knowing they had something special
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a8Ln31ZOJk&feature=related
Quote: Quote: If we hadn't had Jazz we wouldn't have the large percentage of current music.
Maybe.
Personally, I can't think of a single piece of 'current music' that I'd miss.
I can honestly say that I couldn't tell you the name of a single track or so-called artist in today's charts
Well when i say current, I mean anything since the 50's. The Blues and Jazz are the basis for modern music.
Quote: Well when i say current, I mean anything since the 50's. The Blues and Jazz are the basis for modern music.
Again, I'd have to say 'maybe.'
That's a pretty sweeping generalisation which implies, to some extent, that no-one's had an original idea, musically, in the last sixty-odd years.
never liked "metal" when I was at school, most of my mates were into WASP and other wierd guitar based "angriness" which I never got.
Listen to it now... and it's still sounds awful to my ear....
I'm sure people would be better off buying a punch bag to take their anger out on
Nowt wrong with a bit of "weird guitar based angriness", Ade... And don't go knocking WASP or I'll set my wife on to you! She's hopping about like Zebedee in anticipation of their 30 Years Of Thunder tour later in the year... Yep, still touring after 30 years... A bit less blood, guts and angriness these days though...
I'm not sure where I'd start for music I didn't like a decade or two ago and still don't like today. There's so much to choose from... Though my Rock/Metal tastes have changed the core of my music taste is still there.
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That's a pretty sweeping generalisation which implies, to some extent, that no-one's had an original idea, musically, in the last sixty-odd years.
Yes - a sweeping statement but essentially true in my opinion. Obviously these matters are largely subjective but I think even if you try to be objective about this argument, it has to be said that Pop music does have limitations as to how far it can be developed because it is based on simple and repetitive structures.
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