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New PC, off the shelf or build my own


MeanGreeny e2
9 3.7k England
7 Oct 2013 10:36PM
Paul, you might put your parts list here once you've decided?

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brian1208 e2
11 10.6k 12 United Kingdom
7 Oct 2013 10:40PM
I buy all my PCs / laptops refurbished from PCWorld (never had a problem yet, I reckon that doing that I get them cheaper and sorted the way they should have been when they were first sold Wink

I then add extra hard drive, more RAM and get it the way I like it to be.

I've got two PCs on the go and a couple of laptops (one foe me and one for my wife) - seems to work

(I used to build my own but the excitement went out of it now they are so easy to build and cheap to buy "off the shelf")
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
7 Oct 2013 11:34PM

Quote:Paul, you might put your parts list here once you've decided?

AMD 8 core Processor
Large CPU heat sink(passive cooling)
8 gig memory, maybe 16 tops.
Gigabyte mother board(Micro ATX)
Quality case(Micro ATX desk top) and GPU
Hdd Rack(hot swapping)
120gb SDD for operating system
1 TB hard drive for rack

I`ve already got the new operating system and a new graphics card (arrived today)

All in, 500 or less.


Quote:I used to build my own but the excitement went out of it now they are so easy to build and cheap to buy "off the shelf"


Thanks to off the shelf systems in the past, I`m going to have to pay extra for this build, its not always good Sad
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
7 Oct 2013 11:43PM
Forgot the optical drive, for now I could use what I already have, or splash out an extra 50 quid and add a blueray re-writer Smile
lemmy e2
7 2.0k United Kingdom
8 Oct 2013 10:53AM
When I buy a new machine (or if I were to put one together), I always do a complete clean install of Windows and then make an image of it without my working software loaded. That way, any glitches or driver problems mean a five minute restoration of the disk.

Then I do another image when all my software is loaded and ready. It's good to have a clean system to go back to any time you want.

Last week I installed an SSD to my machine in France, having been quite overwhelmed by the performance improvement on my computer in the UK. I'll not buy another machine without an SSD for OS and program files, the biggest single difference you can make.

Boot time is cut to a few seconds and programs like Photoshop and Lightroom, with the catalog on the SSD, simply fly. I keep my image and video files on a separate spinning hard disk. To set up the SSD was merely a matter of cloning the c: partition on my HD and then restoring it to the SSD, took all of 10 minutes. I really would recommend an SSD to anyone - around 80 for a 128GB model.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
8 Oct 2013 8:14PM
Spinning disk are going to be a thing of the past for me, my hard drives will be removable and if one is left in it will have an on/off switch, you might be surprised how much extra heat these drives create.

I quite like the idea of having a passive power supply, ie no fan but there are still bit pricey, I`m still undecided on this.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
11 Oct 2013 9:12PM
Ordered the mobo yesterday, it could be a few months before I have collected enough parts to build the system Smile
jondf e2
8 2.7k
14 Oct 2013 10:31AM

Quote:I build my own for the fun of it.


As others have noted, there's something to be said for doing it yourself. It's a nice feeling when you switch on and it all works. However, the market's changing. Desktop PC sales are falling year on year as folk turn to laptops and mobile phones as a more flexible alternative. Wireless connectivity is and will continue to be a big influence.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
14 Oct 2013 11:21AM

Quote:As others have noted, there's something to be said for doing it yourself


I will be if the wife finds out Smile Smile

I`ve Just ordered the case and the optical drive, it had to be small and neat, most cases just look horrible, I went for this one in the end.

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=303




thewilliam 6 4.9k
14 Oct 2013 11:51AM
The beauty of brand-name computers is that they work straight of the box. And they come with warranty and support. Manufacturers can buy components a lot cheaper than you can.

Some years back, I bought a "bespoke" computer from a local supplier and when the hard-drive failed, as they all do, I learned that none of the software or the operating system had been road-legal. Getting it working again was an expensive business because he'd ceased trading and everything had to be purchased afresh.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
14 Oct 2013 11:55AM

Quote:And they come with warranty and support


And so will mine, building it myself Smile
jondf e2
8 2.7k
14 Oct 2013 2:28PM

Quote:....building it myself


Good luck with your project. If you get stuck I expect you'll find a wealth of advice on here Smile
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
14 Oct 2013 8:19PM
That could be interesting Smile


Quote:I learned that none of the software or the operating system had been road-legal. Getting it working again was an expensive business because he'd ceased trading and everything had to be purchased afresh


Road legal as in what
gcarth e2
10 2.3k 1 United Kingdom
14 Oct 2013 8:39PM
I agree with Paul and Dann: PC Specialists really are good: They provide excellent advice as well as back-up service and send you a very useful manual.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
14 Oct 2013 8:48PM
Yes but it is the extra cost involved.

I have shopped around and the cheapest I have found will cost me 849 for something identical to what I am building for 489, that is a big difference.

My final cost will more than likely be even cheaper, I`ve based my prices on Amazon.

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