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New PC, off the shelf or build my own


Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
1 Nov 2013 11:21AM
Back in the film era darkrooms got talked about, now we have all gone digital nobody discuses the digital equivalent Smile

The only reason I`m doing this build is because I bought a Dell last time around, there hopeless when the need arises to upgrade something Sad

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Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
2 Nov 2013 9:31PM
I got off to a good start, the power supply was dead on arrival, there was nothing on the 12v rail, I`ve had to return it for a replacement Smile
Ade_Osman e2
11 4.5k 36 England
3 Nov 2013 10:45AM

Quote:I got off to a good start, the power supply was dead on arrival, there was nothing on the 12v rail, I`ve had to return it for a replacement


What a bummer!.....Not the first time I've heard of that though with P/supplies, I've just recently had the brushless 12v fan within the p/s go down on one of my machines, all sorted now, but very irritating at the time. .......Onwards and upwards from here then Paul, hopefully this will be the only hiccup you have....Good Luck mucker! Wink
Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
3 Nov 2013 8:06PM
I have an old supply that I use just for test purposes, its too noisy to use in a case, our vacuum cleaner is quieter Smile

Its good to go now, boots to post without problems using an old HDD and my test PSU.

All I`m waiting on now is the replacement PSU, a 2TB green drive and a 120GB SSD (not ordered yet)

A few snaps fitting the CPU, cooler and ram, used the kitchen worktop for this stage, no carpet so less risk of static, its also a good idea to use and anti static strap as well.

Bare board
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Fit ram, Raise CPU catch, locate triangle on PCB and CPU, align both and drop cpu into place, lower and lock catch.
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Mount cooler and fan
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The stock cooler is pretty massive. unless I`m going to be doing a lot of over clocking this will be enough.
Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
10 Nov 2013 2:10AM
I`m still waiting for the replacement power supply and I am still using this new build without a dedicated graphics card and the hard drive is the one I`ve borrowed from a five year old slow external HDD, this is what I got.

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Not so bad considering this has only cost me 350 so far, the scores will improve once I`ve added the planned HDD, SSD and graphics card.

I also tested out the builds video trans coding strengths, for this I used a 90 second FLV file and converted this to AVI.

New computer, time taken 22sec

Old computer, time taken 3 minutes 59 sec

What a difference Smile
Term e2
9 85 9 England
11 Nov 2013 7:38PM
not sure if you're interested, but I have a EVGA GeForce GTX 560Ti "448 Edition" card for sale ?

(this mite be breaking forum rules, so can an op just delete this comment if it is ?)
Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
11 Nov 2013 9:23PM
Thanks but I already have a GTX 770 sat here.
Term e2
9 85 9 England
12 Nov 2013 5:21PM
ah riteo, thats what I bought as my upgrade Smile
Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
12 Nov 2013 8:47PM
Yes its a beast, its just a card that`s borrowed, not tried it yet, not sure if I even need it.
Ade_Osman e2
11 4.5k 36 England
12 Nov 2013 9:00PM
You've a way to go yet Paul. but you're getting there Wink
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Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
12 Nov 2013 9:39PM

Quote:You've a way to go yet Paul. but you're getting there


Yes I have, I still have the HDD`s ans SSD to get yet and I still haven`t fitted a card.

The replacement PSU arrived today, so I fitted that tonight.

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As I said no proper HDD as yet and no SSD or graphics card fitted, but even by just fitting a proper psu the scores for processor and ram have increased in little and it boots quicker and runs better.

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Ade_Osman e2
11 4.5k 36 England
13 Nov 2013 5:14PM
The SSD and graphics card will make all the difference Paul as it does with mine..... I can make mine go even slightly higher in terms of performance with just a quick boot into the BIOS and then a quick tweak here and there so as to overclock everything, great for gaming, not so good on the ears though as all the fans have to run full tilt to keep everything cool. Sad Oh the beauty of the Intel i5-3570K processor Smile although at the moment it's running at a rather pedestrian 3.30GHz, which keeps everything cool and QUIET Wink You don't wanna be in the same room when it's overclocked at 4.5Ghz, but that's when the headphones come out while I'm fragging the whole world playing COD and drawing so much current the lights dim down in the house, the main reason I have a 750w PSU........It's all a bit overkill and yes I am a bit of an anorak, but I do like the odd fragfest, not that I'm getting any chuffing time at the moment, too busy packing all my belongings in preparation for a house move, no guesses though for what will be the last thing to be packed Wink
Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
13 Nov 2013 8:49PM

Quote: the main reason I have a 750w PSU


No its not over kill especially if your using or intend to add a beefy GPU, they can consume as much as 200 watts on there own.

For best performance I find its best to have the PSU running at around 70% under full load and 50% idol.
my old test PSU I had been using was only 300 watts but when I fitted the new supply I got a good 7% in performance and thats without adding a video card, decent hdd or SSD.

I could OC my new system but its already running at 4 ghz and flies.
Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
14 Nov 2013 1:27AM

Quote:Home building a PC is like home baking or home brewing, it's never going to be cheaper, but it can be a fun hobby in itself and an opportunity to get exactly what you want, and if you don't, you can't blame anyone else apart from yourself. Smile


Although I still have a few parts to add my home build is sat here running (I`m using it now)

So far its cost me somewhere around 350, I looked at these pc specialist and there quoting more than double for my build as it is now, and that is with them using the same parts, similar parts or lower quality parts.
Paul Morgan e2
13 15.7k 6 England
5 Dec 2013 9:04PM
I took the build a step further this week, adding an SSD and a rack.

Neither are essential but the SSD speeds things up, and the rack does away with all my external hard drives and saves space, 15 well spent.

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