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    Stuarty
    21 Jul 2005 - 5:40 AM
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    I've got a Canon S1 IS, 10X zoom but no bulb setting, so I know my night sky pgotographing is going to be limited. Shooting the moon is no problem - well, it can be when it's really bright - got a shot last night where it looked like the setting sun, but I would like to photograph planets if possible. Last night I got two shots of, I think, Jupiter, both perfectly round images, surprise, surprise, but with very different colours. 15 secs is my slowest speed and at 1 sec, 10X + digital = 32X, 'Jupiter' looks green/yellow. At .5 sec, same zoom setting, it looks blue/purple. I would like to capture a 'realistic' colouring.

    Any thoughts?

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    chriswebb
    21 Jul 2005 - 7:26 AM
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    Maybe you get reciprocity failure with digital sensors?

    dougv
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    21 Jul 2005 - 10:35 AM
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    Possibly a bit of chromatic abberation.
    The differing colours would probably be caused by moving air currents shifting the frequency of the light being gathered.

    You will also have a problem with long exposures unless you use a specialist camera with a cooled CCD to counter the heat generated by the amplifier circuit of the CCD.

    But don't let that put you off!

    Doug ;o)

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    21 Jul 2005 - 11:08 AM
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    i read in an astronomy mag that film beats the pants off digital for astro photography.

    dougv
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    21 Jul 2005 - 12:34 PM
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    That is probably correct Terry.

    Hubble wouldn't be much good if it used film though.

    Astrophotography is realy rather specialised, and the advent of digital has brought it to a much wider section of the astronomy community.

    Doug ;o)

    philwig
    21 Jul 2005 - 1:08 PM
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    Quote: I read in an astronomy mag that film beats the pants off digital for astro photography.

    That was a magazine from the 1980s I guess? Check Sky & Telescope or just about anywhere else doing astro stuff. Here's a good general intro. Google will provide you with a lot more.

    On the original post... post the shot so we can take look. I'd guess it'd be the colour of your local light pollution, but it's not immediately obvious why it'd change. How are you setting your white balance?

    dougv
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    21 Jul 2005 - 1:38 PM
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    Quote: That was a magazine from the 1980s I guess?

    Perhaps not Phil.
    There have been some great advances in digital astocams in the last few years.
    It wasn't that long ago that they were all sub-mega pixel as is my Starlight Xpress MX5C.

    As a coincidence, my subscription renewal for S&T arrived today!

    Doug ;o)

    Stuarty
    22 Jul 2005 - 12:26 AM
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    Many thanks for all the replies. Don't know what reciprocity failure is, I can understand the air current point, as I have done a lot of binocular night sky viewing - should know where Jupiter is at present, but a bit rusty and it was a chance series of shots having been taking the full moon. White balance is the default for the camera - havn't fiddled with that yet. Many thanks too for the link to S&T.

    Have posted a composite of the two shots in my portfolio. Further comments would be welcomed and I will experiment more when the skies are darker - full moons don't help shooting more distant objects - or even seeing them in the first place.

    It would be nice to get some shots of the Pleiades, parts of Orion etc, later in the year.

    chriswebb
    22 Jul 2005 - 1:11 AM
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    Stuart, reciprocity failure is caused when films are exposed for long exposure times, the effects being:

    (1) an effective decrease in film speed, so for example if a correct exposure is 1/15sec at f1.4, you would expect 16sec at f22 to give the same exposure, but you would actually need a longer exposure time.

    (2) and this is the bit relevant here, the colour balance also falls to pieces, I believe because the sensitivity loss mentioned above does not occur evenly across all colours.

    As I mentioned, I've no idea whether this applies to digital and there are obviously plenty of astrophotography experts here to help you out.

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