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Do you happen to know if the Nikon d80 has a dust remover feature, just like Canon 400d?
Pretty sure it doesn't. To be honest I wouldn't make that sort of feature a reason to choose or not choose a camera, handling and performance are much more important than something which may prevent you having to clean the sensor once or twice a year.
Ian
Aaah... so, Ian... you decided to get a D200 then?? The last time I asked you about it you were determined to stick with the D70.... :O) Nice one!
To be honest, the dust on sensor issue is enough for me to not buy a new DSLR until one comes out that has anti-dust technology and a Nikon F mount. I'd be well uo for a D200 but for the fact I'd still be stuck with the frustration of sensor cleaning.
Quote: Aaah... so, Ian... you decided to get a D200 then?? The last time I asked you about it you were determined to stick with the D70.... :O) Nice one!
lol. I think I actually said I would stick with the D70 unless it broke or something else happened. What happened was I had the chance to get one for a price I couldn't refuse.
As to sensor cleaning, as I said in the other thread I've only had to clean my sensor twice in over 2 years of regular usage and lens changes.
the "dust" is normaly attracted due to static in the ccd nikon have moved the filter from the front of the ccd ferther away from it so less dust is attracted to it. they also have a dust mapping system so it can be removed in capture nx after the photo is taken.
also as long as you change your lenses quickly and not in sand storm you are normaly going to be fine most stuff on ccd especially when you first buy a camera is stuff left inside the camera from machining
from what i have read nikon clean and open and shut appeture blades before they put them in cameras to help this problem
Nikon are making a huge error if that's true.
Dust is a major issue.So much so that Canon are having to deal with it being the dominant force in the current market.
So we have Olympus,Canon,Sigma and Sony all having anti dust technology.
Wen companies ignore what their customers want (and potential customers) then they're onto a big loser.
Until Nikon remove their heads from the sand they will continue to lose ground to Canon and in turn be overtaken by the chasing pack.
Phil.
Seems everyone these days is looking for yet another gimmick to make OR appear to make their lives simpler, Lets have more and more bits in our cameras, more knobs bigger screens, self loading memory cards, makes the tea when your not actually taking pictures with it, ETC ETC.
Oh I must rush outside and Bin my Nikon D200 it has no " Anti Dust Technology " *Can't have that*, " That's Just So Last Year ", Nikon are obviously talking out of their 90 years worth of camera production rear ends.
Must rush I'm off down to Jessies to get me one of them all singing Sensor shaking Rock and roll jobs, Because I can't wait to have more silly Gimmicks that will go wrong.
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Makes a change from bigger knobs more screens ....
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According to Nikon, the majority of dust that comes onto the sensor is generated inside the camera. By running-in their shutter and mirror mechanisms prior to assembly, they claim not to get anywhere near as many problems as some other marques. This is a phenomenen that I have heard other camera manufacturers confirm.
The majority of sensor cleaning threads on these pages are started and fuelled by Canon owners. OK, there are more Canon's about. But, having used all marques, it is also my experience that Canon are the cameras most likely to have bunnies appear on the sensor.
Over the last twelve months, canon's market share has dropped, while Nikon's has increased. (Sony's has only managed to equal the gap left by KM)
Think about it.
Ian
I am about to become a proud owner of a Nikon D80 (if Father Christmas has got the hints) on 25th of this month.
Of the many attractions, this camera has near instant startup.
Reading some of the reviews of 'dust removing' cameras, I would have to wait for them to have, um, a good shake before being able to take a quick snap.
No thanks.
Vince
Seriously though, we seem to forget that dust is and always will be present in the air, that nice ray of sunshine steaming into your living room will show that it's their, You breathe it in all the time ( except those who live in a sealed enviroment ).
So dust in itself is nothing new, It made the likes of Mr Hoover ( no not J Edgar his brother ) & Mr Dyson very rich people indeed.
Dust and Photography are nothing new, Open the film door on an average 2 year old 35mm film SLR dust, Also in and around the rear lens element ( Not including the debris from light seals that crumble into a nasty mess ) You will find dust, It's magical powers cause it to stick to your film, and in some cases produced lovley lines along the emulsion, Oh ! those where the day's, The day's when no one kept whinning about it, JUST blew the dust out and got on with it.
Nothing is safe from dust, and these gimmicks that seem to be appearing are just yet another marketing ploy, When MegaPixies won't do the trick, Will they eliminate dust, NO, do they promise you will never have a dust problem ever again NO, Why because they can't guarantee it, WHY because unless they radically redesign the SLR concept it's always gonna be a potential problem.
You can shake your sensors about all you like, But if the dust particle is pollen based ( and the bigger one's usually are ) they actually stick to the low pass filter, and as some have said on an earlier thread, Several Cleanings with fluids & Pecpads fails to remove these types, It's fairy obvious a mild shake will have no effect either, Therefore No Gain Just another useless gimmick.
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