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bumbleb3
bumbleb3  8356 forum posts United Kingdom
19 Jan 2014 - 8:02 PM

I am looking to purchase the Olympus OM-D E M1 four thirds camera but need some help with lens

I am looking at the 100-300mm, Macro, and wide angle
Don't seem to able to find out the best between the Olympus and the Panasonic
Has anyone got any of these lens
sandy

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rogerfry
rogerfry e2 Member 8501 forum postsrogerfry vcard United Kingdom
19 Jan 2014 - 9:04 PM

I use the Panasonic 100-300 and have found it to be excellent, although if I was starting from square one I would be seriously tempted by the Olympus 75-300 mkll, which is more expensive but gives more at the wide end. (One disadvantage of the Panasonic lens is that the aperture operating mechanism is unable to keep up if you are doing high speed continuous shooting).

The Olympus macro lens is superb, and definitely worth getting, as is the Olympus 9-18.

There are a lot of E-M5/E-M1 users on here, and I'm sure you'll get a lot more response.

StrayCat
StrayCat  1014462 forum posts Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jan 2014 - 9:09 PM

I have the M5, and the 100-300mm Panasonic, and like Roger, I really like it. I also have the 12-50mm kit lens, and think it's highly under-rated, especially for video, for which it is an excellent design. My favourite lens is the Olympus 17mm f1.8, I hardly ever take it off the camera since I got it. I also have the excellent Olympus 45mm f1.8, but don't use it much, yet.

Have a look at Lemmy's reviews on Youtube, they're excellent.

Last Modified By StrayCat at 19 Jan 2014 - 9:09 PM
Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314911 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jan 2014 - 10:31 PM


Quote: I am looking to purchase the Olympus OM-D E M1 four thirds camera but need some help with lens

Save some money and get the EM5 + 12-50mm instead, and spend what you have saved on extra glass.

Most of what you do is semi macro and the EM5 is perfectly good for this, even a G5 or G6 would be good as well, although the 5 axis of the EM5 will have its advantages for occasions when a tripod is not practical.

lemmy
lemmy  71768 forum posts United Kingdom
20 Jan 2014 - 12:10 PM


Quote: I am looking to purchase the Olympus OM-D E M1 four thirds camera but need some help with lens

Remember that the E-M1 is not an update to the E-M5. The main reason for it and its price is the ability to use the old 4/3 lenses more effectively. If you don't have any of those lenses you'd be better off with an E-M5 or wait for the update to that. The new one may even use the phase detection focusing for the M43 lenses as well as the 4/3 which would be an interesting development and a good stpe forward.

I have all these following lenses.

The Panasonic 7-14mm f4 is a very, very good ultra to normal wide lens. The Olympus 60mm is a good macro, better than its alternative 45mm Panasonic simply becaue the focal length allows you a little more stand off than the 45mm.

The Panasonic 100-300 performs well but really needs a tripod at the long end, being the equivalent of a 600mm on full frame. I'd recommend a tripod collar for best balance.

You'd do well to take a look at the Panasonic GH3 with battery pack, too. Performance wise there is nothing in it but the GH3 with pack is the best handling camera I've ever used - along with Hasselblad - in 50 years as a photographer.

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Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314911 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2014 - 3:02 PM

The GH3 retails at a similar price to the EM5 as well.

There is also a new EM model on the way, this one should be a little cheaper than the EM5`s launch price.

ChrisV
ChrisV  7725 forum posts United Kingdom26 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2014 - 4:13 PM

I have the EM1 - can't compare it to the EM5 or the GH3, but build and ergonomics are superb - it's also the only m4/3 body available at present that offers on-chip phase detection, which you may find useful if your subjects are moving. The 12-40 zoom is superbly built and a fabulous general purpose lens.

As for other lenses I don't shoot macro, but I know the Oly 60mm has a very good reputation. I've also not got an ultra wide, but do own the 17 f1.8, 20 f1.7, 45 f1.8, 14-140 zoom and 100-300. I'm pretty happy with them all, but the last on the list gets relatively little use as it's on the longer end of what I'd normally shoot.

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314911 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jan 2014 - 8:23 PM

What do you prefer Chris, the 17 or the 20 since you have both Smile

One thing worth noting is that neither the Panasonic 45mm macro or Olympus 60mm macro have IS built in, so the 5 axis Ibis of the Olympus can be really helpful, your not always going to be carrying a tripod.

And electronic extension tube sets are dirt cheap on Amazon, 30 quid or so, some are cheaper, there quite handy paired with the Olympus 45mm or Sigma 60mm.

StrayCat
StrayCat  1014462 forum posts Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2014 - 3:26 AM

Fyi, I don't have any issues with the Panasonic 100-300mm through the full focal length, and it is probably down to the IS on the E-M5. The only time I've had it on a tripod was to take a picture of it, and I'm a tripod person, or at least I was till I got the E-M5.

bumbleb3
bumbleb3  8356 forum posts United Kingdom
21 Jan 2014 - 8:26 AM

I probably won't use the video setting on the camera.Not a video person.
The reason I like the M1 is the grip at the side . I think the M5 is flat

Still having a problem between the olympus and panasonic lensm though

Also cannot find a wide angle lens.

sandy

bumbleb3
bumbleb3  8356 forum posts United Kingdom
21 Jan 2014 - 8:28 AM

I am having to buy all new lens as my old lens are too heavy

I have also got Lee filter kit, with ND grads and a polariser and even though I have been told they will fit I have a feeling they will not fit an 4/3 lens very well

sandy

camay
camay  7116 forum posts Scotland3 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2014 - 8:36 AM

I think there only is the Panasonic 7 - 14 mm.

I have the 12-40mm, a superb lens, the 60mm as I love macro, and the 40-150 I picked up cheaply, new but no box. It gives me plenty of distace without worrying about a tripod. I am still waiting for the free adaptor from Olympus to use my four third lenses! The EM-1 is very easy to hold, the grip is superb.

camay
camay  7116 forum posts Scotland3 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2014 - 8:38 AM

I have the Cokin filters, all I had to buy was a new ring to fit the new lens diameter.

ChrisV
ChrisV  7725 forum posts United Kingdom26 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2014 - 11:29 AM


Quote: What do you prefer Chris, the 17 or the 20 since you have both Smile

One thing worth noting is that neither the Panasonic 45mm macro or Olympus 60mm macro have IS built in, so the 5 axis Ibis of the Olympus can be really helpful, your not always going to be carrying a tripod.

And electronic extension tube sets are dirt cheap on Amazon, 30 quid or so, some are cheaper, there quite handy paired with the Olympus 45mm or Sigma 60mm.

The Panny 20mm has been one of my favourite lenses - it's tiny, sharp and does nice bokeh. I had one from owning a GF1 way back when and bought another when that was stolen with the rest of my kit.

I bought the 17mm because as you know, I want to limit DoF at fairly short focal lengths and at [more or less] 35mm equivalent the Olympus is that bit more useful. I was surprised by how small it was - not hugely bigger than the Panny, is better built [in my experience Olympus lenses are usually very well built] and has that useful pull-back sleeve for manual focus override. It also doesn't suffer from the slow focus performance in low light that is the 20mm optic's Achilles' Heel. I have the mk1 version, but from what I hear Panasonic haven't improved that in the second version and DxO also scores the mk1 [slightly] sharper [it also scores higher than the Olympus in that regard].

I haven't used the 17mm an awful lot yet, but my feeling is that it will prove more useful and more reliable than the Panasonic. If I had to choose between the two it would be the Olympus. Having both does seem a bit over the top.

I still need a proper wide optic [and the Olympus 9-18 and Panny 7-14 are both very expensive] and have also been contemplating buying the Panny/Leica 25 f1.4. Selling the 20mm would offset the expense.

Another option for wide is to go fisheye if you don't mind or want the distortion. Again the Panasonic 8mm is pretty expensive, but the Samyang 7.5 is pretty damn cheap. I haven't got one of those, but I do have the Canon version [and an adapter for use with m4/3]. The 'native' one is a lot [lot!] smaller, but of course both are completely manual. However, apart from the inconvenience of not getting EXIF data, manual focus is no issue on such an optic. Focus at more than a metre and a half or more and everything will be in focus anyway.

Fisheye may seem quite a specialist optic, but I find I do use it a fair bit at gigs/events to get additional shots of crowds/ whole stage/ environment. They're not super-sharp by any stretch of the imagination, but they make for nice supplemental/atmosphere images.

StrayCat
StrayCat  1014462 forum posts Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jan 2014 - 5:00 PM

I have the Rokinon/Samyang fisheye, but haven't used it, except for a few special effects with the grandchildren's shots. I also want the 25mm 1.4, but wonder would I use that, as I really like the 17mm focal length for walkabout downtown, and at the market.

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