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scottishphototours

I'd welcome the input of any of our IT professionals here...

I'm looking at the iMac 27", but as a lifetime PC/Windows user I'm also looking at the possibility of a Dell/HP/Sony or whatever make equivalent system. If there's anyone out there with any ideas (or links!) on systems I should be looking at, can you let me know please!

I'd also welcome input from anyone that's had one built for them by specialist builders.

Specs-wise I'm looking for the following:

- Dual-core or better processor (which one?)
- 23 inch or bigger screen (which one?)
- 16Mb of Ram
- 1Tb drive
- Dvd drive (or B-Ray)
- Min 6 USB ports

Thanks for your help!

Andy.

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scottishphototours

I've taken my own advice and used the search function and came up with PCSpecialist.co.uk, which looks pretty good. A great spec with great processor, memory, 2x1Tb drives, great graphics card etc and all for £1079.

Would be interested in anyone who has ordered from this company recently....

Andy.

Last Modified By scottishphototours at 29 Jan 2010 - 10:37 PM
wasper
wasper e2 Member 8532 forum postswasper vcard Ireland1 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jan 2010 - 11:24 PM

I got nearly similar to the imac @ £ 1172, but that's not including a screen. So with a good 24' Dell monitor the price would be similar if not more.
But thanks for advertising the site here.

Last Modified By wasper at 29 Jan 2010 - 11:24 PM
LensYews
LensYews  51300 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2010 - 12:09 AM

I'm looking at a standard Dell machine from the XPS range, with either the HP LP2475W or Dell U2410 monitors.

vetcameraman
30 Jan 2010 - 12:23 AM

Presume you mean 16Gb of RAM. Our Time Machine (circa 1995) was upgraded to 16Mb RAM! That was when a 850Mb hard drive was 'massive', and a Pentium 75MHz was 'superfast'!! The one thing I still have is broken glass everywhere. (Windows crashes, now on XP and Vista!)

monkeygrip
30 Jan 2010 - 1:01 AM

Hi Andy, After many years of faithfully defending my string of PCs I made the move to the 27" imac.

Trust me buy the mac your PC will be the best thing in the world until that first windows update and then goodnight.

I almost wanted the mac to fail so I could prove the years of sticking with a PC where justified but it has impressed me so much I am even going to bin my laptop as well and get a macbook.

It costs a fortune and thats just the hardware all the software packages seem to be twice the price of windows based software if available at all.

Even so save yourself the bother of upgrading your PC again in 12 months costing another grand and get the mac.

I await the torent of abuse from my old PC comrades for being a judas but the mac is worth it.

redsnappa
redsnappa  111878 forum posts United Kingdom
30 Jan 2010 - 9:07 AM

iMacs a great to work with, but the repair bills are very high and upgrade options are extremely limited.

If you really want a Mac the Mac Pro would be a better buy than a iMac as you can upgrade/replace the hard drives, graphic cards and other bits yourself.

We've had several hard drive failures in our suite of 18 month old iMacs at the school I work for and each repair has cost over £200 to replace a £50 hard drive. not value for money in my book.

Hard drives can fail at any time in which ever system you buy so don't forget to buy disk imaging software so you can get your system up and running in less than an hour of replacing a failed hard drive. (it saves the time consuming time installation of all your applications individually.

Last Modified By redsnappa at 30 Jan 2010 - 9:09 AM
BigRick
BigRick  82085 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2010 - 10:47 AM

Have a look at

www.Alienware.co.uk

,,,, they are some REALLY quick PC systems,,, and they look nice too. Smile

Check out the Area-51 ALX Desktop if i had the money, this is what i would buy.

BigRick
BigRick  82085 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2010 - 10:55 AM

This would be the spec for my machine, although it would set you back a touch over £5,000

COLOUR CHOICE Alienware Area 51ALX Black Anodized Premium Desktop Chassis edit
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ I7 Extreme Processor 975(3.33GHz, 6.4GT/s,8MB) Overclocked Lvl 3 edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64bit- English edit
SERVICES AND SUPPORT 1 year of coverage included with your PC edit
PROTECT YOUR NEW PC No Security/Anti-Virus Protection edit
MONITOR 21.5" Alienware OptX™ AW2210 1920 x 1080 (2ms) Widescreen Flat Panel UK/Irish edit
MEMORY 12GB 1333MHz (3x4GB) Tri Channel Memory edit
HARD DRIVE 1.2 TB (2x 640 GB) Serial ATA (7200 Rpm) Dual HDD Config Raid 0 Stripe edit
GRAPHICS CARD Dual 2GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 5970 graphics card edit
AUDIO OPTIONS No Headset Required edit
KEYBOARD Alienware TactX™ Keyboard - UK QWERTY edit
MOUSE Alienware TactX™ Mouse edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Blu-Ray RW (Blu-ray, DVD, CD read & write) edit
SOUND CARDS Soundblaster¿ XFi¿ Titanium PCIe card

strawman
strawman  1021991 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2010 - 11:26 AM

I would go about this a different way. First I would pick the screen (or even a pair of screens) for a serious photo editing machine. Then I would get the 64 bit version of the OS and a large amount of RAM, say 8 or 16G.

Then I would have the Hard disks in a mirrored raid configuration so you have good integrity. and a quad core processor to finish it off.

For reliability I would go for a big boring box and avoid overclocking. Also I would avoid single HD machines and avoid ones using lap top components as they tend to run hotter or slower, or sometimes both.

As for having to upgrade every year, never found the need to, most PC's should give 4 years performance. Same goes for the OS, why update unless you have to. Patches yes.

As for who to buy from I would compare the equivalent machine from apple and from non-apple suppliers. All the above were OS independent considerations to be honest. But also by criterion it would not be an iMac or the Dell equivalent. Those all in ones strike me as a poor value compromise, though for users who want a pretty system they are good.

Perhaps the Pro series could do the job.

Last Modified By strawman at 30 Jan 2010 - 11:28 AM
Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 813402 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2010 - 11:31 AM

I would just get the iMac....Smile

MarkBroughton
30 Jan 2010 - 11:50 AM


Quote: your PC will be the best thing in the world until that first windows update and then goodnight.

Really?? Not too sure I agree with that statement

Last Modified By MarkBroughton at 30 Jan 2010 - 11:53 AM
Just Jas
Just Jas  1225716 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2010 - 12:14 PM

Can't say that I entirely agree either. I have used PCs with Windows OSs from Win 3.1 through 95, SE, Me and XP.

With perhaps one or two possible exceptions the various upgrades have not been detrimental but have probably improved the integrity of the product.

Probably the biggest problem that I have encountered was insufficient memory in the early PCs that I used.

Last Modified By Just Jas at 30 Jan 2010 - 12:20 PM
redsnappa
redsnappa  111878 forum posts United Kingdom
30 Jan 2010 - 6:41 PM


Quote: your PC will be the best thing in the world until that first windows update and then goodnight.

If you update your mac you better back up your data first
Snow leopard Mac bug!!

cameracat
cameracat  108575 forum posts Norfolk Island61 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jan 2010 - 11:35 PM


Quote: your PC will be the best thing in the world until that first windows update and then goodnight.

LOL....Yeah! For sure but at least with Windows machines, We all know whats happening, Funny how Apple manage to keep a lid on thier screw-ups.....!!!

Would that be because Mac users just don't notice anything, Probably drawn to the light of those 27" inch screens like moths around a flame.....Smile

Now you know what your mummy told about sitting to close to the telly......Wink

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