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    sun_flower
    15 Oct 2006 - 12:40 PM
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    Hey guys,

    I would like to invest in my first dslr and I came up with these 2 cameras.

    Pentax has this stabilizer (which, how good does it work, can anyone tell me? especially for close ups I'm interested) and it's somewhat cheaper. But the objectives offer is quite limited (even though I won't start buying many objectives from the start I would like to have my options there).

    About Canon what can I say, it has this dust remover (or whats the name), but I still believe in traditional ways of cleaning the lenses, it has a great objectives offers.

    There is also the problem of looks, Canon looks plastic while Pentax has a more stylish look (of course, it comes at a price of 100g heavier).

    I would really appreciate your comments, especially if you own any of these cameras.

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    Menzabac
    15 Oct 2006 - 12:48 PM
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    Hi,

    Just had a look at the canon 400d review which is something that I am now considering, although my comparison is the nikon d80.#

    Not sure if you know, but from reading your post its possible you may not be aware that the canon dust cleaner is for the cmos chip and not for lens cleaning, I would think that cleaning the chip in a digital is a little bit more delicate than cleaning the lens and not something I would undertake to do at present.

    There is a review posted yesterday about the 400D on dpreview.com

    Andy

    Mike Otley
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    15 Oct 2006 - 12:58 PM
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    Just sent you a PM on where to get some info...

    da_nige
    15 Oct 2006 - 1:15 PM
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    Remember its not just about buying camera. Its about buying into a system. You need to ask whos lenses are better and flash etc.

    FWIW I'd go with the 400D but I am a Canon user and have never used Pentax. I have used Canon IS lenses though and think that they are phenomenal.

    Neil

    McBrian
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    15 Oct 2006 - 2:02 PM
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    Hi sun_flower

    IMO If you can wait a few weeks you will be able to compare the 400D with the new Pentax K10D, if the specs and street price are anything to go by (and IQ is equal or better) to the competion you will not be dissapointed in the short wait.
    Try them all and choose the one that suits YOU.


    Quote: FWIW I'd go with the 400D but I am a Canon user and have never used Pentax. I have used Canon IS lenses though and think that they are phenomenal.


    FWIW I'd go with the K100D but I am a Pentax user and have never used Canon. I have used Pentax lenses though and think that they are phenomenal.

    BTW Every single one of the 24 million K mount and screw mount lenses in existence wheather Pentax or 3rd party are shake reduction capable with both the K100D and the K10D.

    Brian

    da_nige
    15 Oct 2006 - 2:21 PM
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    I didnt say my opinion was worth anything I just said what it is. I feel that Canon are the stronger brand. That said some of the Pentax lenses are certainly interesting. The only reason I mentioned Canon lenses is because you mentioned the in camera IS of the Pentax

    mdpontin
    15 Oct 2006 - 2:39 PM
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    I second the advice to to get a look at all the cameras on your short list. It's not just about who has the most impressive spec, or who is the best known name, it's about what's right for you, personally.

    To that end, I'd recommend you give some thought to the type of photography which interests you most. It's very likely that getting the system you need doesn't mean you have to choose any one manufacturer over another, in which case your choice can be made on the basis of other factors, such as price and (very important) handling.

    I have a Konica Minolta Dynax 7D which uses a very similar stabilising system to the Pentax, and I find that it can be useful. It can't do the impossible - you will still need a tripod or monopod at times - but it can make quite a difference in those marginal light situations.

    I'm currently considering a switch to Pentax - the K10D is the one that I'm interested in. I used Pentax cameras in the 1980s and in my experience they were well engineered and well designed. Pentax lenses are generally good too - sometimes much more than good!

    Doug

    cambirder
    15 Oct 2006 - 3:30 PM
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    If by close-ups you mean macro, do not expect IS to give you anything, even with the new IS Nikon macro lens IS is useless when you get in close.

    sun_flower
    15 Oct 2006 - 3:39 PM
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    To be honest I didn't think of investing in Canon or Pentax lenses, but just have for now an additional (I mean beside the basic kit) sigma lens (either a 28-300 or a 18-200).

    So I was interested about body only, if it justifies the difference of some 150euros.

    And, thank's Andy for the cleaning tip, I totally misunderstood Smile

    dark_lord
    15 Oct 2006 - 6:30 PM
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    Quote: There is also the problem of looks

    That should be way down on your list of priorities, if at all.

    But looks are very important and some have to decide between a black or a silver body and get all worried about black bodies being more receptive to desert sun when left on the dash in a closed car and cooking the electronics.

    Note I joke Smile

    For a person of average means the wide range of lens available to nikon/canon users is irrelevant becuase they will never buy them.

    I wouldn't look at Nikon or Canon until they get up to date and include stabilisation in the body. So it is Pentax or Sony with the latter giving you a 5 stop advantage compared to the usual "advisory". [Shutter speed equals focal length].

    Image stabilisation is equally useful working close as afar, probably more so. I've been using it for two years now and wouldn't buy a camera without it now.

    cambirder
    15 Oct 2006 - 6:53 PM
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    Quote: To be honest I didn't think of investing in Canon or Pentax lenses, but just have for now an additional (I mean beside the basic kit) sigma lens (either a 28-300 or a 18-200)

    Seems a poor choice of lenses if close-ups are your main thing. Forget the super soft super zooms, make your priority a macro lens (Sigma 105mm, Tamron 90mm or Canon 100mm) you will never regret it.

    sun_flower
    16 Oct 2006 - 6:01 AM
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    Just now I don't have enough money to invest in a macro lens. So I'm trying to make a compromise just now and have both a zoom and a macro option. When time comes (and with this I mean money) I will have specialized lenses.

    da_nige
    16 Oct 2006 - 7:35 AM
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    For macro on the Canon you wont go far wrong with the 50mmf1.8 and a set of tubes. Can be had for less than £150

    c_evans99
    16 Oct 2006 - 9:28 AM
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    Or a manual focus Pentax 50mm f1.7 - a very, very good lens and a fair bit cheaper than the Canon.

    Ceri

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