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lemmy
lemmy  71811 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Mar 2012 - 7:02 PM


Quote: You haven't seen 73% of the Gallery Portraits on ePz!

Funny how us photographers always want to photograph pretty or glamorous people and painters like Bacon and Picasso don't give a damn for 'pretty', they want 'interesting'. Bacon's idea of a nude is very different from the sexy soft porn images of most photographers.

Not true of the greatest photographers, I suppose, like Bill Brandt who have a serious intent about their nudes.

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Bloggs
Bloggs  2313 forum posts England
7 Mar 2012 - 7:43 PM

One word Ade ......"CHARM" .....simple, turn it on and they just relax Wink ....now i must go and practice what i preach ......oh and under no circumstances do you ask them to smile !!!! tell them to be miserable ....they will smile Wink get it ?

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014778 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
7 Mar 2012 - 8:58 PM

Its a bit like a speed-dating approach to portraiture really... you've got 2 minutes to capture someone and make them look ace Wink

Think I did just about everything positive that people have mentioned so far... didn't go in for the shock tactics... or chin anyone... in fact, there were some proper giant rugby players there!

Quite an enjoyable sort job really - no one quite the same.

shooting tethered kinda helps - you can show them the shot instantly on a screen, get the "I look awful" comments out of the way then show them how to "really stand", get great shots, pack them on their way and they love it Wink

do need to learn some suitably filthy jokes though

Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41194 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
7 Mar 2012 - 9:37 PM


Quote: If you read some of the comments here, many people seem to think the way to deal with hostility is more hostility. It's not. The reason people are like that is that they are nervous. You overcome that by relaxing them. Anyone can take a picture. Not everyone can relax nervous people.

I don't think the comments were meant seriously......................TongueWink

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014778 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
7 Mar 2012 - 10:10 PM


Quote: I don't think the comments were meant seriously.

....and neither was the thread in general Wink

Just a bit of fun

Tooth
Tooth  95772 forum posts Ireland227 Constructive Critique Points
7 Mar 2012 - 11:13 PM


Quote: I hate having my picture taken

"well that's hardly surprising is it, love?" Wink

JackAllTog
JackAllTog e2 Member 53579 forum postsJackAllTog vcard United Kingdom58 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2012 - 9:28 AM

Maybe a tear sheet of actors in business dress and some flattery - Ah you look like and Al Pacino kind of Guy lets go for that look with you sir. Great look, now lets try you as a Tom Hanks with this type of pose.
This approach may also allow marketing to group "styles" of people when they use the shots?

I could give you my jokes list too, but only so you'd avoid using them as they never work Wink

Last Modified By JackAllTog at 8 Mar 2012 - 9:29 AM
alansnap
alansnap e2 Member 10528 forum postsalansnap vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2012 - 9:28 AM

Hi Ade, I completely agree with Lemmy. I might ask them why they feel that way and talk to their nervousness. Then of course as you seem to have done you get them in a sympathetic pose and they realise that this process is not unpleasant and may even be fun. You're doing the right thing showing them the results and letting them feel that they have some sort of influence over the final result.

Why the consultants, I have no idea - after all you are a consultant with the specialist skill of taking photos.

Alan

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014778 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2012 - 9:59 AM

Did they call them selves agents at one stage, now they've metamorphosised into consultants

When you show them the photo and they do the "god that's awful" thing, you can throw it back and say "what do you want to change" Wink Quick move of the lights can usually solve most worries... well except for the "newly chubby" ones. I think people who've been over-weight for ages are kinda used to it, it's those who've recently put on the pounds who are worst...

SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64345 forum postsSlowSong vcard England28 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2012 - 10:43 AM


Quote: I hate having my picture taken
"well that's hardly surprising is it, love?" Wink

Gawd! I'd never come to you. GrinGrinGrin


Quote: , I completely agree with Lemmy. I might ask them why they feel that way and talk to their nervousness.

Oh no!! Counselling! It'd never work with me. I'd walk out and shrivel up. Grin

Last Modified By SlowSong at 8 Mar 2012 - 10:44 AM
Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139395 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2012 - 10:57 AM

Drop the name of their MD early into the conversation! devilish-light.jpg

You'll probably get more co-operation. Wink

Andy_Cundell
8 Mar 2012 - 1:15 PM

LMAO, this is quite a funny thread!

A good point raised though Ade, I would remind them I'm only taking part of their soul with my iconographmachine!Grin

I think humour has to be the way forward!

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014778 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2012 - 4:42 PM

Humour all the way...

Unlike most clients, these guys didn't want to be photographed, so it's kinda making it as light hearted as you can that counts...

There was this HUGE rugby player, talking 60 inch chest (mine's 50 an he was LOADS bigger), and didn't take long to get him laughing when I told him to stand side on cause i didn't have a lens wide enough to get him straight on!

After that, 10 very quick fire clicks, 5 shots he really liked - just picked one... NEXT!

pablophotographer

I have told them this: keep your eyes closed when you review them.

danielwaters
24 Mar 2014 - 9:56 PM

We're in a people business, so if we're not able to help people feel happy and comfortable then we're doing something wrong. Talk to them, charm them, take their mind off the fact that you're about to 'click' so it almost 'click' doesn't feel like they're being 'click' photographed. The fact that I look like Harry Hill and have an awesome repertoire of gurns I can use doesn't hurt either. Almost every client I speak with says 'I hate being photographed' but they always love the results. It's our job to help them look better than they've ever looked before using, posing, composition and lighting.

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