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i'm going to make the move from psp7 to photoshop elements as most image manipulation books i see refere to the latter rather than the former, i read though that elements 4 doesn't have a file browser which makes me want to go for elements 3, can anyone confirm this? also is there much to be gained from elements 4 or will i be ok with elements 3? any advice is welcomed as i'm a relative newbie to all this manipulation stuff.
Why?
Elements is OK if somewhat slow and clunky at times, it can probably do everything you may want now.
However, Elements is not Photoshop, thats why it is called Elements.
It lacks many things but offers simple to use tools for some tasks. Ultimately you will not be satisfied.
Eric,
The question was going from PSP7 not full photoshop. I haven't used psp since a very early version where I found it didn't compare very favorably with PS le. I have elements 4 that I got after I lost access to the full version. I have found I can do most things in elements that the full version will do. You just have to work out how. I think this is Adobes way of forcing pro's to go for the full version as it would cost a lot of money in lost efficency to use elements. Not sure what file browser is missing. I can open files in elements 4 much the same as in PScs I was using before.
cheers
Al.
I use Elements 3 for most of my stuff. Should be able to pick up a new copy at a bargain price as it's been superceeded.
It's missing curves but there is a plug-in that can replicate that.
Elements 4 has stopped the use of the Plug-in and doesn't seem to offer much more than 3 that would be useful.
Suggest you work between E3 and PSP7.
what?...no curves?...ok back to psp7 for me, i just LOVE curves ![]()
seriously i think working between psp7 and E2 (which i already own having recieved a copy with my scanner) is a good idea, what i can't do with one i will probably be able to with the other. actually i will probably still use psp7 the most as learning a new package usually takes a while and can be a steep learning curve, i am not a patient person nor do i have an aweful lot of time on my hands at the moment.
thanks for the replies.
I would stick with Elements 2 (as you already have a copy) and use the curves plug-in that barnowl has kindly given the link above. Get to know elements 2, and when you feel you have outgrown it upgrade to Photoshop CS. Elements 2 is also kinder on system requirements, and both elements 3 and 4 can be clunky on some systems. Michael
elements 4 has a new magic masking mode which cs2 doesent
cs3 will prob have it
but will cost you 600-700 squids ;-((
I can see some film purists being sent to the local chemist offering 2.99 prints as sending them to a pro lab could be manipulating the image
With the stand alone RAW tools, all you can do is adjust what is already there, no cloning etc.
I do not remember film workers decrying the work of the printer? so why is it such a big hang up with digital. Is it because more people can do it?
Quote: I can see some film purists being sent to the local chemist offering 2.99 prints as sending them to a pro lab could be manipulating the image
any action on a film after processing can be construed as manipulation if you look at it like that, since any print won't be an exact copy of the original wether negatives or transparencies, too many variables.
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