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    Silver  877 forum posts
    10 Nov 2006 - 4:55 PM

    What I'm talking about are the pictures you see where people have added a frame, maybe a title and their name. Do you find that this improves a picture? If so, why?

    I'm simply curious, as many shots on here seem to incorporate this, whilst many don't. Personally it makes no difference to me but evidently that's not the case with everyone. In my opinion a bad choice of frame can detract from an image. On the otherhand I think it's unlikely that someone would look at a picture and think "Well, it would be good if the tog had added a frame..."

    Thoughts?

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    VICTORHABBICK
    10 Nov 2006 - 5:05 PM

    Its all down to personal taste, some love them, some hate them. With my Graphic designer hat on I am a firm believer that a good photo can be made to look better with first class presentation and a poor photo, well its poor whatever you do with it. I love giving my shots a good title as many of my own ideas come from a title in the first place. I have always believed that no matter where you display your work a little time on the presentation will never go a miss just like that final check and touch up of any print regardless wither its paper or digital.

    Victor

    justin c
    justin c  104512 forum posts England36 Constructive Critique Points
    10 Nov 2006 - 5:05 PM

    A good image still looks good without a frame or title.

    A carefully selected frame/border and title can enhance an already good image and gives the impression the photographer takes pride in his work and cares about the final presentation.

    A poorly selected frame/border and title can spoil a good shot.

    A poorly selected frame/border and title makes a poor shot look even worse.


    Putting the word 'study' at the end of a close up (usually because it's accidently uncomfortably too big in the frame)
    just sounds plain daft,IMHO.

    csurry
    csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
    10 Nov 2006 - 5:08 PM

    Personally use it because even with the 350Kb limit for 1000px images sometimes this is not enough to preserve all the details.

    Therefore my images are in fact 850px with a large border. This allows me normally to save between 80% and 90% in save for web. I feel that this retains more quality. I could just post at 850px and not have a border I suppose. But as it is a PS action it doesn't add any time really to the processing for ePZ.

    Cheryl

    beaniebabe
    10 Nov 2006 - 5:29 PM

    I do the same as Cheryl, image size 850pixels then when adding my border I tend just to use a small black and white, sometimes slightly bigger than others depending on image.

    Angie x

    GlynB
    GlynB  729 forum posts
    10 Nov 2006 - 5:39 PM

    Depends on the image. Think that the pale cyan background used in the gallery, PFs, well everywhere doesn't flatter images unless they have fairly uniform v.dark/v.light areas at the edge, so a bit of border seems to help the online presentation.
    Also perhaps there's a perception (albeit maybe a subliminal one) among some people that bordered works have been given a bit more TLC (NB NOT my personal opinion, just guessing how others might think!)
    Agree though that a badly done border can ruin even the best shot

    cambirder
    cambirder  107202 forum posts England
    10 Nov 2006 - 5:48 PM

    A thin border sometimes help prevent the image bleeding into the background, anything else just steals pixcels from the image.

    justin c
    justin c  104512 forum posts England36 Constructive Critique Points
    10 Nov 2006 - 6:00 PM


    Quote: anything else just steals pixcels from the image.


    Or adds pixels to the image,depending on your point of view.

    Hazard
    Hazard  101192 forum posts United Kingdom
    10 Nov 2006 - 6:02 PM


    Quote: Presentation - does it make a difference?


    Yes

    monstersnowman
    10 Nov 2006 - 9:10 PM

    Personally when showing images I always show them with an overlay as it always improves the overall appearance of the image without any doubt, and I always feel that on a web site the minimum of a small black, white or similar border to make an image stand out & helps the overall appearance in the same way.

    nikon5700ite
    11 Nov 2006 - 8:33 AM

    I have gone to the trouble of organising a full background colour [a grey] for the photograph to sit on instead of just the shot sitting there with horrible glarey white around it. Example

    That to me is basic presentation/projection and you never let the projector shine on the screen. A monitor is a similar situation that you are letting the viewer see peak white.

    I know people break this rule but it is just ignorance of basic presentation, or carelessness. Been guilty of that from time to time but I do make an effort to avoid doing so.

    Skodster
    Skodster  8902 forum posts Ireland
    11 Nov 2006 - 8:53 AM


    Quote: I have gone to the trouble of organising a full background colour [a grey] for the photograph to sit on instead of just the shot sitting there with horrible glarey white around it.

    This is the reason that I often provide a border. It means the photographer remains in control of the presentation.

    Its the same reason why people use different colour mounts in a frame.

    aftertherain
    11 Nov 2006 - 9:36 AM

    I like to see a photograph with a border, even if it's just a 2pixel black line around it.
    It's a bit like food,
    you go to a restaurant and if the food is nicely presented the whole experience is more enjoyable.

    What irritates me (and this is just me) is a great big copryright notice, or text, added that is out of proportion to the picture and the border it sits in.

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