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I am after some advice.
I recently shot a family for a portrait session and they have asked me if they can buy all the photos and have them suplied on a disk.
There are 100 photos and the same amount again as black and white - so 200 in total.
Anyone got any experience of pricing for this??
thanks
James
I think a bit more info's needed before decent advice can be given ?
What was the agreement for the original shoot, was it shoot for free and they buy prints at an agreed price, or something different ?
Were u paid a fee upfront to do the shoot ?
Has the client purchased a number of prints at this point ?
Chris
Hi
The shoot was given to the client as a gift by a family member who paid £100 to include 5 A4 prints. Additional prints are then priced depending on the size required and these prices were communicated up front.
So yes, I have received up front payment.
The client has not purchased any prints yet.
James
My prices for prints in frames are £30 8x6 £45 10x8 and £130 for A3. I dont give my clients a disc because it could stop them purchasing prints of me. There are all the typical downfalls of selling a disc. Cropping dimension, resulution, colour calibration, client getting prints on a cheap printer and wonder why they are rubbish after being taken by a pro tog. These are not your problem but clients will moan about it when they find that a disc is not as flexible as they thought. Best to just give them a finished product so they cant be left to their own devices.
Quote: Quote: I dont give my clients a disc because it could stop them purchasing prints of me..Not too shabby advice, but why would they want a print of you ?
Paul.
Because im so handsome. james
Also echo James's advice.
Why don't you explain the reasons that this is not a product that you offer, however you would be happy to supply a Photobook with all images included.
You can design it that it has some full page pics and some pages with multiple images. Guide price for this would depend on the number of images requested, the wholesale cost of the product to you, your time for designing and P&P. Start circa £200??
If you give a disc of say images resized at 300ppi 8x6 and they go to get an a3 enlargement they are going to be a bit upset with the quality, there money wasted. they may go to ikea and buy 10 frames all with 7 3/4 x 5 3/4 mounts thinking they will overlap the print just nice but the print has already been cropped to be compositionally precise at 8x6, hence, more money wasted. The prints get collected at asdas cheap photolab with a blue cast on them, more money wasted and when they finally resort to going to a professional framer to get frames with mounts cut you suit they need to spend more money to get their sub standard prints frames. The hassle is enough to put them of employing you again even although you have given them what you asked for. I would recommend buying frames, using a good photolab and buying spacers to put in the frames and ensure you produce a good finished product. Your prices for doing this may scare many potential customers away but at least you will be respected and valued by the customers you do get as they will be so happy with your services from start to finish and it is better marketing for you when people see a well presented product hung on a previous customers wall. james
This is really interesting.
How many people on this site do DIY - ie, carpentry, electrics, plumbing, plastering etc.? I would bet lots of you. Stealing someone else's job!
Where the plumbing is done professionally how many of you would be willing to pay the plumber a commission evrytime you turned on the tap he installed??
It is now the same with photography ( and lots of other specialist jobs) - the tools ( computers, software and printers ) are readily available so people want to DIY their pictures. This is a normal progression - once the government frees up access to medicines a lot of us will DIY diagnose and prescribe with the help of the intertek.
In the case of photography, I think you need to go with the flow. The customers are more savvy and able now, they know what they want and will shop around until they get it. They want to have them 'slideshowed' on their electronic photo frames and computer screensavers.
In the end, what possible use could I have for photographs of people I do not know? You would be very restricted as to what you could use them for without a model release, and I imagine the people we are talking about would not sign that.
The market place is customer driven and photographers like so many people before them are going to have to deliver what the customer wants.
That's my 3 penny worth.
David
Quote: This is really interesting.
How many people on this site do DIY - ie, carpentry, electrics, plumbing, plastering etc.? I would bet lots of you. Stealing someone else's job!
Where the plumbing is done professionally how many of you would be willing to pay the plumber a commission evrytime you turned on the tap he installed??
It is now the same with photography ( and lots of other specialist jobs) - the tools ( computers, software and printers ) are readily available so people want to DIY their pictures. This is a normal progression - once the government frees up access to medicines a lot of us will DIY diagnose and prescribe with the help of the intertek.
In the case of photography, I think you need to go with the flow. The customers are more savvy and able now, they know what they want and will shop around until they get it. They want to have them 'slideshowed' on their electronic photo frames and computer screensavers.
In the end, what possible use could I have for photographs of people I do not know? You would be very restricted as to what you could use them for without a model release, and I imagine the people we are talking about would not sign that.
The market place is customer driven and photographers like so many people before them are going to have to deliver what the customer wants.
That's my 3 penny worth.
David
Dont agree with you im afraid. As a business you can make money from different angles. You can produce a pruduct at a decent price for customers that want quality or you can do a half a job for people that want to do the rest of it without considering the implications. It really all depends on what people you want to make money of and how you want to be viewed in their eyes. With regards to diy, people will do there own plumbing if they can do it from start to finish but will not employ a plumber to do have a job to have to do the other half of the job themselfes. Just as many people will take photos with there compact and be happy with the prints they get out a cheap photolab. when you cut corners and take the same attitute being a paid photographer it does not read well with clients that want a good job done. To take peoples money there is a standard that needs to be produced and it has to exceed what people can acheive themselfs otherwise the will not be willing to part with their money for it. There are right and wrong ways about the way you go about business and the way i look at thinks is that you need to do things in a mannor that put your client in a position where by they can not justifiably critisise your product because they want to take shortcuts that take the quality of the finished product out of your control. I have pointed out the pitfalls already. james
Bloomin' 'eck James!
When it comes to quoting - ever heard of the principle of less is more 
Hi Wireman,
The difference between your fictionary plumber and pro togs is that we own the image copyright and therefore can charge a reproduction fee.
I share James' concerns regarding allowing images which can be attributed to me being reproduced on anything less than a quality product. As for electronic images for Digital Photoframes/slideshows and screensavers, this is a product that we do provide. All are reduced to 72dpi to ensure that they cannot be printed (well unless they like standing 40ft away to look at lots of blocky pixels in their prints!)
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