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JJGEE 9 6.4k 18 England
23 Jul 2013 10:36PM

Quote:What particularly makes you feel its bloatware Ade ?

Perhaps not bloatware BUT Adobe do admit with every release they " introduce" bugs, which then have to be fixed !
The latest bunch were over a month ago so maybe a fix will come soon ( with new / different bugs of course )

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lobsterboy e2
11 14.2k 13 United Kingdom
23 Jul 2013 10:46PM
Every program has bugs, its just a question of how you manage them really. Which is where the lr team have fallen over a bit too often.
Jestertheclown 6 6.6k 242 England
23 Jul 2013 11:03PM
Now my opinion of Lightroom's heading in the other direction!

For ages, I tried to like LR2, then 3, all to no avail. I couldn't get on with the interface, none of the tools seemed particularly impressive; in fact I only ever used it for very minor adjustments and to convert raw files.
Since my copy of LR3 broke on me and I had to use the trial of LR4, however, I suddenly came to terms with it and now that I'm using LR5, I'm positively happy with it.
I still don't agree with people who say that it's a replacement for CS and I don't think that you can finish your images without recourse to CS to follow it up but it has become a serious piece of kit and even I, a serious Photoshopper for years, am using CS less than I used to.
It does take some getting used to though.
answersonapostcard e2
10 12.7k 15 United Kingdom
23 Jul 2013 11:35PM
I've always used CaptureOne, for me it was a mistake changing to LR as I've never been truly happy with it - even Nikons own RAW convertor was better for me, but is always a personal preference.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
24 Jul 2013 12:03AM
Get yourself a colour checker passport K.
Ade_Osman e2
11 4.5k 36 England
24 Jul 2013 5:39AM

Quote:What particularly makes you feel its bloatware Ade ?


It's the actual size of the program in comparison to PSPX5, both come in around about the same size. However, when you consider that PSPX5 has a full blown image editor bundled with it, as opposed to LR which lets be honest here is nothing more than a glorified RAW convertor, you have to ask questions. It's the same with a lot of Adobe's products, take Acrobat for instance, when put in comparison with NitroPDF it's massively bloated and yet there is nothing you can do with Acrobat that you can't do with NitroPDF or a whole load of other PDF editing programs.

What's more as Jester states, LR is full of bugs and errors and that's despite being released as a Beta so it could be tested before final release (that's become a bit of a joke!)......PSPX5 is polished, works, doesn't crash every two minutes or as Jester has experienced break down altogether and does practically everything both LR and CS6 can do together with aplomb in most cases. And yet Adobe still wants you to part with and lets face it here, an extortionate and inane amount of money for what it does and is.

I urge anyone who is seriously considering changing their processing software to download the trials of all the programs mentioned and to take a serious look at PSPX5, you might just be pleasantly surprised at just how good it has now become, then compare the prices. If you're a Pro I can understand the arguments for Adobe software, but otherwise and trust me on this it's a no brainer at least for the serious amateur who can't afford to go throwing his money around.
lobsterboy e2
11 14.2k 13 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2013 7:03AM

Quote:And yet Adobe still wants you to part with and lets face it here, an extortionate and inane amount of money for what it does and is.

Not sure why you think it's extortionate, it's the same price as PSP X5. Switching to Lightroom for me replaced:
*Downloader Pro
*Media Pro
*Capture One
*QImage

so represents quite a saving on buying individual bits of software.

It's really hard to tell from the website, does PSP X5 have equivalents to the download, catalogue and web modules that LR has ?
JJGEE 9 6.4k 18 England
24 Jul 2013 7:34AM

Quote:and to take a serious look at PSPX5

Just checked out Corel's website.

It appears you need a computer than only runs the Windows Operating System ! !

So, if you take into account the cost of buying a new computer as well as the 59 for the software it is certainly NOT worth considering .
pluckyfilly e2
8 318 33 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2013 8:20AM

Quote:Get yourself a colour checker passport K.
What on earth is that?
lobsterboy e2
11 14.2k 13 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2013 8:24AM

Quote:Get yourself a colour checker passport K. What on earth is that?


This
Ade_Osman e2
11 4.5k 36 England
24 Jul 2013 8:40AM

Quote:*Downloader Pro
*Media Pro
*Capture One
*QImage



PSPX5 does everything those programs do plus most things CS6 will do on top Grin


Quote:It appears you need a computer than only runs the Windows Operating System ! !


Admittedly your stuffed if you're in the minority and are using a MAC
lobsterboy e2
11 14.2k 13 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2013 8:53AM

Quote:PSPX5 does everything those programs do plus most things CS6 will do on top

Ahh ha, I see. What is it with Software companies, they all seem to make it really difficult to see what their software actually does!
Yeah, PSP X5 does look to be a bit of a bargain then.
Ade_Osman e2
11 4.5k 36 England
24 Jul 2013 8:59AM

Quote: It appears you need a computer than only runs the Windows Operating System ! !


I wonder if that's why LR, CS and Acrobat seems to be so bloated, by this I mean we all know that LR and CS is primarily designed for use with macs, does it not convert very well when they have to adjust the coding to get it to work on Windows machines? And going along the same school of thought, is this why the current versions it seem to be full of bugs and errors? Do Mac users have the same problems with the recent bugs and errors?

Any thoughts Jeff (JJGEE) or any other Mac users for that matter.....??
lobsterboy e2
11 14.2k 13 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2013 9:10AM

Quote:I wonder if that's why LR, CS and Acrobat seems to be so bloated, by this I mean we all know that LR and CS is primarily designed for use with macs, does it not convert very well when they have to adjust the coding to get to work on Windows machines?

Depends on how it is written but there is usually an overhead on making something cross-platform.

Quote:
is this why the current versions it seem to be full of bugs and errors?


I didn't think it was that bad? Just one major bug on exporting is all I have heard about.
Multiple hardware platforms/multiple OSs increase the number of things that can go wrong & the number of things you have to test for, so could have an effect. A lot of companies that are used to coding for the Macs rigidly controlled environment (with few options for hardware & OS) seem to do badly when faced with the wide variety found in the PC arena.
pluckyfilly e2
8 318 33 United Kingdom
24 Jul 2013 9:24AM

Quote:Get yourself a colour checker passport K. What on earth is that?

This


thanks for the link Lobsterboy of course I knew about this but not as a colour checker, colour monkey I have heard mentioned at camera club locally, not sure where it fits into this thread but again thanks
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