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    sberlyn
    7 Aug 2007 - 10:55 AM
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    Hi Guys,

    I've managed to get the job for a local school's prom, next year.
    I will be doing formal shots, as everyone will be dressed up smartly.

    I don't currently have any studio lights, nor a backdrop.
    I was thinking about getting one of the Interfit kits, as these are the only ones which I can afford - would the EX150 suffice for head and shoulders / 3/4 length and groups (upto around 8 people)?
    Better still, would I be able to do this with a speedlight flash (SB600) with an assortment of light modifers (diffusers, dome thingies etc.?)

    Backdrop wise, I quite like the idea of one of those ones which you just pull out of a bag and, as if by magic, the wire edges pull it in to shape (like the reflectors off eBay) because as I don't drive, and we don't have a van for a big setup, I'd prefer something more portable.
    Anyone got any opinions on those springy-in-a-bag type ones?

    Cheers,

    S

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    deviant
    7 Aug 2007 - 11:56 AM
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    Buy an Elinchrom D-Lite 2 kit and get better soft-boxes. Then get some spare flash tubes and fuses just in case. Set up test exposure then shoot away on manual. I'd use a cordless flash trigger also. Too many people to stand on a sync cable at these do's

    A standard flashgun won't hack it really. The recycle times will be too slow without a Quantum battery pack or similar. last 'prom' I did was less than one hour to do 56 people so about 60 secs per person to get the shot. Not a lot of time to work.

    pop up backgrounds are fine I guess. I just bought black velvet from a local haberdashery.

    sberlyn
    7 Aug 2007 - 11:59 AM
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    Cheers!

    I forgot to mention the usual problem: Budget.
    As I'm just 16, I don't really want to be spending mega bucks on this setup - would the EX150s hack it in place of the Elinchroms?

    S

    deviant
    7 Aug 2007 - 12:02 PM
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    Can't say I've never used them. What about one light and a reflector?

    sberlyn
    7 Aug 2007 - 12:08 PM
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    That's a possibility.
    Due to the potentially large groups of people (8+) would a head of around 300w be advisable, if I was to go for only one light?

    S

    deviant
    7 Aug 2007 - 12:13 PM
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    It certainly would. In fact at that point I'd also prefer a brollie to spread the light about and a huge reflector. Or better still Two heads.

    sberlyn
    7 Aug 2007 - 12:17 PM
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    Two 300w heads is right out of the question, unfortunately.

    S

    deviant
    7 Aug 2007 - 12:31 PM
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    Rental is a plan then. Try Calumet they are super.

    I have a pop up springy background 6 x 8 which I used for prom pics this year.

    You need some kind of support for them though.

    They don't seem to go exactly flat.

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    sberlyn
    7 Aug 2007 - 2:42 PM
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    Hi Peter,

    Would you be able to provide me with some more details of the setup you used for these prom photos?
    I can PM you my email address if you prefer?

    S

    jazzygf
    7 Aug 2007 - 2:45 PM
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    Try these guys,photodeals.co.uk they have a good range of stuff at a not bad price. I use the interfit stellar 3 head kit. You don't say what your budget is. I would also say give Ebay a try portaflash kits are sometimes a real good try for something small portable and easy to use.
    Also if it is a big group of people you should make sure you charge a price that everyone will want a picture. It is better to be able to sell more pictures for a small price than a few pictures for a stupid large price.
    Main problem with those springy in the bag backdrops is they are great to put up but a real pain in the backside to put back down.

    Last Modified By jazzygf at 7 Aug 2007 - 2:50 PM
    sberlyn
    7 Aug 2007 - 2:48 PM
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    Thanks, Jazzygf.
    My budget is around £300 for lighting and backdrop - low, I know.
    I was planning on selling images at £5each, for a 7x5" print in a strut mount. I would also offer a 9x6" print in a strut mount for £8.50. This would be posted to the customer as I can't afford onsite printing equipment.

    S

    jazzygf
    7 Aug 2007 - 2:54 PM
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    Well back drop 2 lights (120watt) is under £200 with photodeals and I have seen the backdrops to on there or on studioflash.co.uk. I would also so think £7.50 and £10 for your prints.
    Sorry just noticed studioflash.co.uk do not do backdrops anymore.

    Last Modified By jazzygf at 7 Aug 2007 - 2:57 PM
    sberlyn
    7 Aug 2007 - 2:57 PM
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    Would you say that 2x120watt lights would be powerful enough to be used for individual as well as group shots?
    S

    jazzygf
    7 Aug 2007 - 3:01 PM
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    YES, Very much so think about it 2 x 120w on either side of a group is more than enough light, bearing in mind there will be lights on in the venue you may find you have to turn your lights down as you may have to much light.

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