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A little advice please.
I am looking for a compact camera to use alongside my dslr and as this is an area I am not too familiar with I am seeking any views.
I am looking for a compact which will deliver high/good quality results in a wide range of situations, ie landscapes when I am out walking, social events etc. It does not need the specific capability to be able to deliver in areas such as high speed sports action. It is to be used in situations where it has been handily placed in my pocket.
I am not overly concerned by the price (max £450ish), but just want something which is flexible/creative enough to allow some enjoyment in the process. I am currently a Canon user and have looked at the Canon PowerShot G10, but would appreciate any thoughts. I am happy to use any manufacturer, ie Canon/Nikon/Leica(?) in order to get the best results. RAW images would be desirable.
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Most of the cheaper Canon PowerShot range (A590IS, A720IS etc) can use the CHDK software hack to allow RAW shooting and a whole host of other functions too. You could slash your budget in half if you wanted to save a few quid, and still have RAW capabilities.
Just a thought.
Canon G9/Canon G10/ Panasonic LX3
Quote: It is to be used in situations where it has been handily placed in my pocket.
I would have thought that size would rule out the G10.
Have a look on "luminous landscape" - there is a comparison of 3 compacts (though not with raw) for the situations you describe.
Ricoh use RAW too, the GDR II has an excellent prime lens (so may not be as flexible as you'd like) the CX1 a wide DR, with similarities to the Fuji EXR 200.
The G10 has a viewfinder (but mad distortions in the VF, and is bulky) the Leica... well the LX3 is the same (with very marginal processing differences) bar price! Also worth considering the Sigma DP2
Depends a bit on what compromises you want to make... for me I wanted an optical VF, RAW and sharp WA lens, which limited my choices.
I've a borrowed G9 last year and it didn't cope in low light without flash. I find the warning that pre-flash gives the subject ruins the candid feel to social images. I'm not sure the G10 is any better.
On the other hand my LX3 is very good in low light right down to a candle lit restaurant. Last week I was photographing a company meal at Mal Maison in Oxford, anyone who knows the restaurant will know the lighting! I kept getting prompted that my camera didn't appear to be working as the flash wasn't going off - LOL, that was until I showed them the images I was taking! Several people I know now have an LX3 with the decision made purely on images I've taken at an event they attended.
Here's a thread on dpreview with some samples I've taken with the LX3.
Don't just take my word for it - read this high-end compact group test on dpreview and draw your own conclusions.
Its tricky, I find myself thinking the G10 is the better all rounder, mainly due to the focal length range, but the LX3 is an attractive thought.
I thought about all this last year then found a cheep as they come A570IS and use the CHKD hack and all is well. I wish it went closer to 28mm at the wide end (I just stitch images for the moment), but for the rest it is great. I just found it hard to justify spending a lot on a compact camera given the compromises.
I just got a 2nd hand Canon A640 and to be honest I couldnt be more happy with its performance.
Being a Canon user,with the 350d to begin with I was hoping it would be good,but found it great.
handy,compact,full features on it,easy to use,brill image quality.
So how about like someone suggested,one of the canon A570is,a640 range.
Quote: Last week I was photographing a company meal at Mal Maison in Oxford, anyone who knows the restaurant will know the lighting! I kept getting prompted that my camera didn't appear to be working as the flash wasn't going off - LOL, that was until I showed them the images I was taking! Several people I know now have an LX3 with the decision made purely on images I've taken at an event they attended.
Best review I have read! If I was going compact, that's what I'd go for.
I'm an LX3 user and from personal experience ....it's a cracking camera! Low light capability is really good due to the f2.0 lens, the image stabilisation and the slightly larger sensor giving better high ISO performance.
I love using the camera, find it very responsive and intuitive, loads of manual control, a real photographers camera. I honestly prefer using the LX3 to my D300.
On the downside, to balance the argument, the screen is very difficult to see in sunny conditions outdoors so I'm looking for an optional add-on viewfinder. Although reasonably compact, it is solid and needs a decent size pocket as the lens protrudes. Also high ISO is not brilliant ....don't expect too much, I can get away with ISO400 mostly.
I don't think any camera is perfect but the LX3 is pretty damn good.
All good points and really personal favours i reckon, so my tupence worth is a Ricoh Caplio GX100 a wee cracker in all ways
And the Leica D-Lux 3
Is the D-Lux 3 not just the LX2 in a new wrapper with a suitable price rise?
Quote: Is the D-Lux 3 not just the LX2 in a new wrapper with a suitable price rise?
He he nearly but there just seems something a little more with the D -Lux
Quote: He he nearly but there just seems something a little more with the D -Lux
Yes. That little red spot and the Leica price-tag, mainly.
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