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    heidilee
    27 Jan 2005 - 4:51 PM
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    Ok, I've got my glasses on but still can't find curves in my copy of Elements. I'm using a Mac, so I've got the Mac version, but I might be looking for something thats not even there?

    Can anyone tell me if Elements has the curves thing, and if so where I can find it?

    Thanks!

    Heidi

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    Carabosse
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    27 Jan 2005 - 5:03 PM
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    No it doesn't.

    heidilee
    27 Jan 2005 - 5:05 PM
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    Thanks CB. I looked for it the Elements help menu and couldn't find it. (Didn't stop me from searching every dropdown menu though!)

    Heidi

    StrayCat
    27 Jan 2005 - 8:38 PM
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    Heidi, I've been using Elements 3 since Xmas and it has a shadows/highlights function and a remove colour cast feature that does a pretty good job. I had PS CS for the 30 day tryout, and I just couldn't get to grips with curves. Might be just me, getting old.

    Paul H
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    28 Jan 2005 - 12:28 AM
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    I have seen references to a book "The Hidden power of Photoshop Elements", which apparently explains how you can use curves and a number of other Photoshop CS features with Photoshop Elements. It comes with a disc to help implement its ideas.

    I would be interested in hearing from anybody who has read and used this book. Do the ideas help? Are they practical to use? If they are helpful, this could represent quite a saving between 60 for elements, and at least 450 for photoshop CS.

    Paul

    strawman
    28 Jan 2005 - 1:29 AM
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    I have the book and the tools that come with it. Yes curves are un-locked as are guides, colour seperations etc. I can heartily recommend it, but my version only works on elements 1 & 2. There is a new version comming for Elements 3

    brian1208
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    28 Jan 2005 - 1:40 AM
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    Heidi - I've just seen that Amazon are now advertising the version for PSE/3 as available at 19.59 (I'm going to get a copy, thanks John)

    Brian

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    28 Jan 2005 - 11:26 AM
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    Quote: I have the book and the tools that come with it. Yes curves are un-locked as are guides, colour seperations etc. I can heartily recommend it, but my version only works on elements 1 & 2. There is a new version comming for Elements 3

    Any idea if the tools are Mac-compatible or are they PC only? It looks like a pretty useful book but the technique for creating colour separations (extracted here) seems cumbersome enough to make the tools CD essential....

    strawman
    28 Jan 2005 - 2:46 PM
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    The tools are for Mac or PC use to my understanding. And yes the book can be a bit heavy, but it can help if you understand how the tools on the CD work.

    try here for the books web page.

    heidilee
    28 Jan 2005 - 7:09 PM
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    Thanks for all the excellent references. Brian, I'll check out Amazon, that seems to be a fair price. I just couldn't afford the Photoshop CS for Mac, which is why I opted for Elements. I was trying something in the techniques section here on ePz and couldn't finish the steps. Now I'll be able too.

    Thanks all!

    Heidi

    If you are having trouble in getting the 'serious workers's tools' in Elements and along with Curves and Levels I would also insist on having adjustment layers.

    Adjustment layers are a way of making adjustments to a photo without touching the original. You can have a number of them over a photo to combine different effects or else to try different variationbs of the same effect and then simply toggle them off and on to compare the different results.... next to the -redo button about the most useful tool to come in an editing programme.

    I got a copy of MSN's Digital Image suite v.10 with a magazine couple of days ago and was suprised to find in what is a moderately basic programme [by PS and PSP standards] a cute combined Levels and Curves tool ... something for the hard-up I guess.

    If Elements 3 doesn't give you the tools you should seriously consider upping the budget just a little and getting JASC's Paint Shop Pro ..either 7,8 or 9 have all the tools mentioned above so you might find a discounted 7 or 8 which will serve you very well. In many ways superior to PS in it's freindliness and easy way to do things. Rather mind boggling for starters but worth the trouble to get to grips with it. I run PSP8.1 and PS7 and much prefer to work with PSP.

    One respected worker repeated tells PS CS owners that certain tools in PSP which PS CS doesn't have are worth getting simply for that tool. There are a few in PS that PSP doesn't have too to be fair. He runs the programmes simulstainiously, swopping files between them as needed.

    What I have seen of Elements it appears to be a more freindly programme than PS7

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