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Glory, glory, hallelujah, the Luddites still aren't gone . . .
CC Speaker is a Fuckwit. Simple. Oh dear. Had I better asterisk out some letters?
What does he (and it most definitely IS a 'he') think that light hitting a sensor is then?
The idiocy of 'accepted' 'wisdom' in camera clubs is one of the reasons why I no longer go (and, possibly, why my camera club is dying - the membership is down and subs are going up - only a matter of time before it's disbanded)
Funnily enough this guy is not a camera club member, but was a guest speaker who has worked as a pro for years. It got some discussion going at the end, but not as heated as some might have liked it to get 
I think that in his mind there are 2 stages where light is used to paint, firstly at the capture stage to colour the negative, and secondly at the development stage where light is applied to get the image to appear. There were several people that pointed out that light has to hit the sensor in exactly the same was as film, but he wasn't convinced I don't think!
I've noticed most people who say that "digital is not real photography" and often also "editing in the computer is cheating" often admit that they have little understanding or experience of using computers - let alone using and understanding digital editing programs.
So I put most of the viewpoints down simply to a lack of understanding coupled with a lack of willingness to understand. I also think many don't like the view that has silently crept in (via things like almost every pro going to digital and digital only entry to competitions - online submission) that film is largy inferior to digital in this day and age - and thus they have a further feeling that they must defend their art. And defending it is something I can understand when many have put decades of effort into it.
Quote: I think that in his mind there are 2 stages where light is used to paint, firstly at the capture stage to colour the negative, and secondly at the development stage where light is applied to get the image to appear. There were several people that pointed out that light has to hit the sensor in exactly the same was as film, but he wasn't convinced I don't think!
So I still don't get why he doesn't think that digital photography is writing with light (NOT painting - 'graphis' relates to writing not painting, so he's wrong to start off with!). Light hits the sensor (in his mind, film). Then the development stage - without light, levels/curves etc do not happen or make sense. Light is fairly fundamental!!!!
Who on earth booked him? Why? How old are they? 103?
Quote: 'Real photography is done on film, developed by painting with light on emulsion, digital is not photography as you don't pain with light'
the genie is out too long of the bottle for people to sustain such views. Whether its down to a lack of understanding or lack of acceptance is kind of irrelevant, simply because it isn't true. Look at the content of this site and you can see a very wide application of this craft.
I also agree that defending the position of the film photographer is very understandable, (and probably necessary) but it should be in the context of retaining it as a valid (and original) medium for photography - not a put forward as defence of film as the single source of truth and purity.
Of course it could just be ill informed snobbery.....
It is one thing to defend film and another to fly in the face of reason and state that something is not what it most definitely is. The term 'photography' (writing with light) most definitely applies to digital. therefore, the CC speaker is wrong. End of.
I always hated it when I was referred to as a rower, I preferred to be called an oarsman 
So what did that old stick in the mud have us all down as being if we use dslr`s.
lol, our speaker this week was also a film based pro photographer, but he was entirely open to digital, only sticking with film because he felt it produced the best results for his panoramic style.
But I must admit that was a rare good speaker, with most of them I begin wondering at some point why I still go to these things. Especially when I get caught unawares by yet another AV session with cheesy copyright free pipe music.
Unlike Janes, our membership is increasing, and most people now use digital cameras. A couple of diehards holding out with slide film (including myself sometimes, more often if I could find somewhere to turn it around in under a month).
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