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redhed17
redhed17  8658 forum posts England
12 Aug 2014 - 2:12 PM

Great actor, great comedian and looking at the interviews I've seen, and what people who knew or had met him say, a very nice chap.

So sad that the help he had to try and get over his addictions and his depression wasn't enough to get him to a very old age.

I read a few weeks ago that he was going voluntarily into rehab but I didn't expect this to happen. So sad, and you feel for his family and friends. RIP

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LouiseTopp
12 Aug 2014 - 4:35 PM

So sad, another great man gone. Sad

Depression is a horrible illness of which I sadly have. My cousins don't believe I have it and wind me up deliberately so I know how hard it gets. RIP and sincere condolences to his family. Sad

Last Modified By LouiseTopp at 12 Aug 2014 - 4:37 PM
StrayCat
StrayCat e2 Member 1014800 forum postsStrayCat vcard Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
13 Aug 2014 - 9:32 PM

Here's his 1998 Oscar Acceptance Speech.

I liked Robin Williams, a lot. I went to vote on my favourite movie of his on my home page, and realised I have never watched a complete movie of Robin's. Almost as shocking as his death. What I have watched is countless interviews with him on late night talk shows, and he was brilliant, right back to Late Night with Johnny Carson when Robin first broke into show business; he invariably took over the show.

One actor/comedian told of his own first appearance on Late Night with David Letterman; he was waiting backstage to do a stand up comedy routine, just starting out, and in his own words, he was following only the funniest man in the world, Robin Williams. He was talking to a friend on the phone and told him this, and at that moment, Robin Williams walked by. He stopped, and swept into the room, and started taking the guy's measurements for a new suit, he was playing a Jewish tailor, and speaking Yiddish. His friend wouldn't believe him, so he handed Robin the phone; for the next 10 minutes Robin was a Chinese cook taking a Chinese food send out order over the phone. There was nobody there but Robin and himself, and when Robin left, his stage fright had disappeared, but he had the loneliest feeling he's ever had, till now.

Last Modified By StrayCat at 13 Aug 2014 - 9:36 PM
Crazycurtis28

As I am 23 years old. Most of my childhood was spent watching his films. Flubber, Jumanji, Mrs doubtfire, Hook (an all time fav of mine), Aladin....
As I grew up, so did my choice of films he was in, Good Will hunting, Good Morning Vietnam, Insomnia, One hour photo.

He has been making me laugh for all of my life.
Very sad to see him go.

StrayCat
StrayCat e2 Member 1014800 forum postsStrayCat vcard Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2014 - 4:26 PM

I just don't understand how depression transcends love.

altitude50
altitude50  101860 forum posts United Kingdom
14 Aug 2014 - 5:07 PM

Being depressed is like being in a car with no steering wheel, there is no control at that time without help. Being very depressed is like hiding in the locked boot of the same car.

cantona43
cantona43 e2 Member 9885 forum postscantona43 vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2014 - 7:23 PM

His wife has stated he was sober and was in the early stages of Parkinson's Disease

StrayCat
StrayCat e2 Member 1014800 forum postsStrayCat vcard Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2014 - 7:41 PM

That isn't much of a vote of confidence for those suffering from Parkinson's; look at the strength Michael J. Fox has demonstrated in the face of his suffering.

cuffit
cuffit  7173 forum posts England2 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2014 - 9:14 PM

I cannot say too much in the public domain and I have no idea of the true facts behind Robin Williams' health before his tragic death, but I have two extremely close relatives: one with Parkinsons, which is advanced, and one with a debilitating terminal illness. Both have declared their intent that they would not wish to live once the diseases have reached a certain point. It is distressing on many levels but until I witnessed depression at close quarters I had no understanding of just how destructive it is. Everyone deals with things in a different way and it is not possible to compare people. Some years ago a good friend of mine committed suicide and it leaves so many unanswered questions but everyone makes their choices and I will never criticise them. Looking at these things from a rational point of view makes as little sense as trying to determine the apparent irrational actions of those that are ill. One thing is for certain, it is always both tragic and upsetting.

Last Modified By cuffit at 14 Aug 2014 - 9:15 PM
lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014137 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2014 - 9:23 PM


Quote: I just don't understand how depression transcends love.

Its very difficult for those who do not suffer with depression to really understand what the sufferer goes through. Having watched my wife battle with it over the years, all I can say is that it is you have to think of it as an illness:

If she suffered with cancer then no amount of love, care , wishful thinking, heavy drinking, cocaine etc would make the cancer go away, if your lucky it might distract them for a while but the cancer is always there.

Now replace "cancer" with "depression" in that sentence and you might get an idea of what I am trying to say. I guess just as some lose their battle with cancer, Robin Williams lost his battle with depression.

Chris_L
Chris_L e2 Member 871 forum postsChris_L vcard United Kingdom
14 Aug 2014 - 9:57 PM

I can't understand the people who are arguing about Robin Williams' motives.

Just looking at the thing logically, there are people throughout history who have felt so depressed, so unhappy and so unable to live with themselves that the only escape they could find was to bring the lot to an end. Would anyone suggest that these people didn't really feel like that and they did it as a joke or that they didn't mean it.

Imagine the worst pain you can, like incredible toothache that has you banging your head off a wall. You can't enjoy tv, music, reading, conversation or anything else in your life due to it nagging away; depression can be like that, and whereas medication will always help toothache it won't always help depression. Drugs and alcohol may help short-term but make it worse long-term.

That's why it kills people.

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315362 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
14 Aug 2014 - 10:56 PM


Quote: I just don't understand how depression transcends love.

Its very difficult for those who do not suffer with depression to really understand what the sufferer goes through. Having watched my wife battle with it over the years, all I can say is that it is you have to think of it as an illness:

If she suffered with cancer then no amount of love, care , wishful thinking, heavy drinking, cocaine etc would make the cancer go away, if your lucky it might distract them for a while but the cancer is always there.

Now replace "cancer" with "depression" in that sentence and you might get an idea of what I am trying to say. I guess just as some lose their battle with cancer, Robin Williams lost his battle with depression.


Quote: Its very difficult for those who do not suffer with depression to really understand what the sufferer goes through

It can also be difficult for those close to really close to understand as well, depression is pretty unpredictable in its outcome, a suicide night be planed or it could come about in a spur of a moment without any forethought.

Last Modified By Moderator Team at 15 Aug 2014 - 6:43 AM
StrayCat
StrayCat e2 Member 1014800 forum postsStrayCat vcard Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2014 - 4:13 AM

According to our company doctor, I suffered from anxiety, and probably depression, and was put on medication after seeing a specialist, which ended my career 2 years short of the maximum I could have worked. The medication cancelled my license for 3 years. I took it for 10 years, but last December it turned on me, like a rabid dog, frothing at the mouth. Our doctor doubled my med, I got twice as angry. She switched me to a new med, that was worse, she doubled that, I became worse. I don't have any idea why my wife stayed with me, she's a wonderful person, and I love her all the more for it. I drove everybody out of my life; I was filled with anger and hatred. I couldn't even make it to the end of our street in the car without getting road rage. My wife wouldn't get in the car with me, and eventually, I wouldn't get in the car with myself. Suicide, as it is defined, did not enter my mind, but I was on a road to destruction, somebody was eventually going to kill me, or maybe even vice versa, God forbid. Finally, I quit the meds cold turkey, against doctor's orders, and I'm just now coming around and calmed down to the point where I don't scare the **** out of the people around me for no reason. The thing is, I hated being medicated, laid back, taking whatever the world had to throw at me; not anymore, I'm getting back in control after 10 years of living in a fog, being a zombie. I'm sure it's been noticed on here; I make no apologies, I'm myself again, almost, after being missing for the past 10 years.Smile

altitude50
altitude50  101860 forum posts United Kingdom
15 Aug 2014 - 10:34 AM

StrayCat, sounds like things are going your way now.

In 1978 I had been married for 9 years to my first wife who, it turned out was a paranoid schizophrenic, she had all the support she could get from me and her family but she continually abused me verbally and physically, I often had to take kitchen knives off her because I was threatened with being stabbed, she thought I had several mistresses, which I didn't, ever, then, in that year, my mother killed my brother by neglect.Sad
In 1979 I got a divorce because of her unreasonable behaviour, I lost my house. Then a crook moved in with her. Around December 1979 I was in a very low state. Looking back, the reasons I didn't kill myself then were probably that I didn't have that sort of courage and that I had two children aged, then 5 & 6. (They later, in their late 20's turned on me.) I also had an instinct, in a stubborn sort of way that things might get better.
They did in 1984 when I re-married. Since then I have had bouts of depression, partly dating back to the 1970-1979 days but I now sort of know why it happens and sort of how to deal with it.
In the 70's there wasn't the sort of support for depression and 'battered' partners there is now.

TanyaH
TanyaH e2 Member 11531 forum postsTanyaH vcard United Kingdom40 Constructive Critique Points
15 Aug 2014 - 1:58 PM

I feel that anyone who has depression, has had depression (or any other sort of debilitating illness, mental or otherwise) or has had to watch someone they love go through it, and speaks out about it ... well, they're incredibly brave in my eyes. 'Brave' is an inadequate word, but it's the only one I can think of at the moment.

I've always loved Robin Williams - his humour, his particular way of looking at things ... but I also realise that it was probably the on-screen persona(s) I loved, as I didn't know his real self.

For me, one of his best films was The Fisher King with Jeff Bridges ... it's incredibly moving, and given his depression, also now incredibly poignant.

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