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    sjk123
    sjk123  8286 forum posts England
    18 Apr 2012 - 6:54 PM

    Hi All,
    Well i'm going on safari in a few months for 3 weeks .
    just looking for a bit of advice on a lens , i own a 100-400 but was wondering if i would be better off with a 120-300os sigma with some converters
    "due to the rage and f4over 5.6 at the 400 /420 end
    Thanks
    simon

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    LenShepherd
    LenShepherd e2 Member 62481 forum postsLenShepherd vcard United Kingdom
    18 Apr 2012 - 7:59 PM

    How many in the vehicle - and where?
    If you are 12 in a mini bus changing converters is near impossible.
    If you pay extra for 2 in a vehicle you can take what equipment you like.
    In Tanzania if you cannot fill the frame with a lion using 28mm you are not trying.
    In Zimbabwe it is legal to shoot lions for about $10,000 a kill - so getting within half a mile of a lion is a challenge.

    John_Frid
    John_Frid  8514 forum posts United Kingdom56 Constructive Critique Points
    18 Apr 2012 - 8:09 PM

    In Botswana I usually found 200mm +1.4X converter on an crop sensor to be enough for most things, including many birds. Early morning (and evening) are the times when most wildlife is active and light can be a bit low so a wider aperture can be helpful - although with good noise handling you can always up the iso.

    Better not to have too many in a vehicle to ensure everyone has room to move without getting in each others way.

    stevie
    stevie e2 Member 101198 forum postsstevie vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
    18 Apr 2012 - 8:10 PM

    If you want to take 1 lens 100-400 will cover it for safari.
    As Len says, not everything is at extreme range!
    I've done a few safaris, the lenses I take nowadays are a 300 prime, 400 prime, a 70-200 zoom and a 24-105 zoom plus 1.4 converter.
    There is a lot to be said for having 2 camera bodies if possible so you can have one set-up for long range and the other with a shorter zoom (just in case a lion jumps into your safari vehicle and wants his portrait doing)

    sjk123
    sjk123  8286 forum posts England
    18 Apr 2012 - 8:18 PM

    Hi thanks for the info .
    i am taking a 1dmk4 with the long lens and a 5d2 with a 16-35 or 24-105 .
    i was hopping to use the 1d for a bit of action and long shots .
    the reason for me asking about the lens is i don't really want to spend 5500 on a canon 300mm 2.8
    but are more then happy to spend on the sigma .
    was just wanting to know would i be better off with a 120-300 2.8 or the canon 100-400 5.6
    and i need to watch the weight factor .
    simon

    rogerfry
    rogerfry e2 Member 8509 forum postsrogerfry vcard United Kingdom
    18 Apr 2012 - 10:01 PM

    I would think that the 100-400 is a better bet....you've got the extra reach at each end, and you're not really going to want to mess around with convertors when the air is full of dust ! Also, you've already got it, and you can put the 2000 you save towards your next safari.

    I've done three safaris with the 100-400 on a 7D, along with a 5D ll and 24-105, and I would think that over 90% of shots are with the 100-400.

    Whatever you decide, have fun !

    stevie
    stevie e2 Member 101198 forum postsstevie vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
    18 Apr 2012 - 10:32 PM


    Quote: was just wanting to know would i be better off with a 120-300 2.8 or the canon 100-400 5.6

    Of those, I'd choose the Sigma basically because of the F2.8 aperture (much action at dawn & dusk)
    I used the Sigma (old version, no IS) in Kenya a few years ago see here and it performed very well.

    sjk123
    sjk123  8286 forum posts England
    18 Apr 2012 - 10:33 PM

    Ok thanks for the advice and taking the time to give it to me .i think I am going to go with what I have .
    And wait for a while for the 300 canon to come down in price a bit Wink

    LenShepherd
    LenShepherd e2 Member 62481 forum postsLenShepherd vcard United Kingdom
    19 Apr 2012 - 9:10 AM


    Quote: Hi thanks for the info .
    the reason for me asking about the lens is i don't really want to spend 5500 on a canon 300mm 2.8


    You can hire a Canon 300 f2.8, with insurance, from places like Caumet.
    Whether you get "fast action" is part good luck, but more when and where you plan to go; often combined with being out in the vehicle before daybreak.

    sjk123
    sjk123  8286 forum posts England
    19 Apr 2012 - 6:23 PM

    the only problem with hire is at some point you have to give it back ....lol
    did look at the hire road . i'd rather wait and buy my own .

    Dazbo
    Dazbo  9114 forum posts United Kingdom
    24 Apr 2012 - 10:16 PM

    sjk123,

    One thing to bear in mind is it will be very dusty. You don't really want to be changing lenses very often when you're on the plains. I took my Sigma 50-500 which proved it's worth in terms of versitility. Your 100-400 will be perfect for you needs though.

    Darren

    LensYews
    LensYews  51309 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
    24 Apr 2012 - 10:57 PM

    Of course in a few months might also mean rainy season, when dust isn't an issue but finding the animals in all the new greenary can be. I'd also go with the Sigma, I took a f4-5.6 lens and it stuggled in the low light on a crop camera. I also have the Id4 and have known it to stuggle with AF in low light in some action shot situations even with a f2.8 lens attached. You never know you might get a chance of some action, but more likely 99% of your shots will be of grazing animals or sleeping lions.

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