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Mrs_Nomad
Mrs_Nomad  5 Spain
23 Mar 2009 - 10:33 AM

I've been looking at the Shutterstop site where you can upload images then get paid for them when people download them.
If you use these sites to earn money how do you find them - ie is it worth it, do you then forfeit all future rights to the image if someone else approaches you for it?

I'd be interested in any feedback you can give on them.

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magnus
magnus  9661 forum posts United Arab Emirates5 Constructive Critique Points
23 Mar 2009 - 11:01 AM

Could you provide a link please?

yellowduke
23 Mar 2009 - 11:25 AM

Looks like it is Shutterstock.com.

magnus
magnus  9661 forum posts United Arab Emirates5 Constructive Critique Points
24 Mar 2009 - 4:50 AM

Ok - I had a look. I've never submitted to agencies before and this looks like a relatively pain free introduction.
Along with the OP, I too would be interested to hear of anyones experiences.

mohikan22
mohikan22  102187 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
24 Mar 2009 - 7:30 AM

i use Fotolia(.com) and ive sold 6 in about 2 years! very slow and you cannot extract any monies until you reach a 50 credits @60p per credit in your "account" even though i have sold these 6 images it equates to about 4.68.
matt.

Last Modified By mohikan22 at 24 Mar 2009 - 7:32 AM
IanA
IanA  103048 forum posts England12 Constructive Critique Points
24 Mar 2009 - 7:45 AM

It's called Microstock!!

joolsb
joolsb  927115 forum posts Switzerland38 Constructive Critique Points
24 Mar 2009 - 8:18 AM

Thanks for the link, Ian. It's good to see an objective discussion of the microstock model which lays out the pros and cons well.

It can be a very contentious subject when discussed on the forums!

magnus
magnus  9661 forum posts United Arab Emirates5 Constructive Critique Points
24 Mar 2009 - 8:50 AM

Shutterstock is the one I was looking at as Jim suggested.

Mrs_Nomad
Mrs_Nomad  5 Spain
24 Mar 2009 - 9:22 AM

Mohican22 - Ahh.... I suppose the more images you upload then the more chance you have of 'selling' some...out of interest how many have you uploaded? 6 in 2 years isn't much is it? An if you can't access the dosh no matter how little then it's possibly not worth it.

Coltsfoot
Coltsfoot  7 United Kingdom
24 Mar 2009 - 10:17 AM

I've used fotolibra, no joy but that may be related to how little effort I've put in.

yellowduke
24 Mar 2009 - 10:46 AM

Shutterstock don't seem to take any nude content either which kyboshes my idea of selling some of my arty nudes. Different sort of service but Photobox doesn't take nudes either so can't sell through them either. Still useful for other stuff though.

Krakman
Krakman  73615 forum posts Scotland
24 Mar 2009 - 2:11 PM

I haven't used any of these microstock sites, and wouldn't, but I think that the folowing is a rough summary of pros and cons. No doubt others can add their own points, or correct mine:

pros:

(1) Easy way of getting your images online - generally these sites are not too fussy about quality so you're unlikely to be rejected.
(2) you might make a few quid out of your photos
(3) They're your images to do what you like with, so if you want to give them away for peanuts, that's your right

cons:

(1) You're allowing yourself to be shafted by giving away rights to your images for way below what they are potentially worth.
(2) You are giving away the ability to sell your images in the future through normal stock at more reasonable prices - if the normal stock agency finds out about it that is.
(3) You're helping to kill the already half dead professional photography market so you are doing photography and photographers as a whole a big disservice.
(4) Possible damage to your reputation and to your own market if you ever intend to be a pro-semi-pro in the future. And one of the 100 people who've downloaded your pic for 1 each might just have bought your image from a normal stock agency, or from you directly, for a decent price.
(5) You are losing control over your own images in return for almost nothing - in effect you are giving your images away to anyone that's willing to give you a 1, and saying they can do what they want with them. Once you've done that, you can never undo it.
(6) Loss of satisfaction and sense of achievemet. If you sell an image through a normal stock library, you can pat yourself on the back that someone picked your image out from thousands and was willing to pay a fair amount for it. If you sell your images 100 times through microstock, you know that you have been screwed a 100 times.
(7) In most cases, you'll probably earn more money by putting them in traditional stock. You won't earn a fortune, but you have to make an awful lot of microstock sales to get the equivalent of one 'normal' stock sale.

Errr, I think that's most of it - have I left anything out?

Anyone here who thinks microstock is a good idea, please pm me - I wonder if you would offer me your house for 10? And I'l give you 2 for your car Smile

Last Modified By Krakman at 24 Mar 2009 - 2:18 PM
bigjohna
bigjohna  5 Scotland
31 Mar 2009 - 11:08 AM

Can you suggest the best way then to try and sell images I am new to this and would like some sound advice on the best way forward and who are reputable agencies/libaries etc..

Regards

Johna

PWhittle
PWhittle  7176 forum posts United Kingdom
31 Mar 2009 - 4:28 PM


Quote: Shutterstock don't seem to take any nude content either which kyboshes my idea of selling some of my arty nudes. Different sort of service but Photobox doesn't take nudes either so can't sell through them either. Still useful for other stuff though.

istock do - and they've sold some of mine
I'm off to blow my 4.90 commission for 7 sales...

Krakman
Krakman  73615 forum posts Scotland
31 Mar 2009 - 4:32 PM


Quote: I'm off to blow my 4.90 commission for 7 sales...

Why not withdraw them and put them on Alamy? Hardly a road to riches, but not that bad!

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