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Shocking and disturbing


Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
9 Jul 2013 6:10PM
Yep you leave windows open or partially open keeping dogs in cars.

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answersonapostcard e2
10 12.7k 15 United Kingdom
9 Jul 2013 6:11PM
There are other videos that give a different view of this, its not straightforward at all.
arhb e2
7 2.5k 68 United Kingdom
9 Jul 2013 6:13PM
In the first instance, it seems like a funny place to exercise the dog - more like somewhere to parade the dog.
Paul, if the dog was secured in the car, it wouldn't have got out of it's own accord, regardless of what was ocurring to it's owner.
In your own words, the dog 'runs to his aid' - how is he going to aid his owner in this situation?

We don't know who this dude was and whether he was a known problem to the police -
the dog might have even been responsible for attacks on other dogs or humans - we don't know.

Just a video snippet with a lot of assumptions.
lawbert 7 1.8k 15 England
9 Jul 2013 6:22PM
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
9 Jul 2013 6:24PM

Quote:We don't know who this dude was and whether he was a known problem to the police


Yes he was known to the police, he had sued or was in the process of suing them.

I can understand the police using force like that, it was a spur of the moment reaction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCUIYkP9Wk
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
9 Jul 2013 6:30PM
You can see there's an operation in progress (I've read it was a hostage situation), man with dog turns up, music whacking out of the car, not just filming but trying to be seen filming, police ask him to leave, (possibly for his own safety) he gets mouthy, they decide to forcibly remove him from the scene, dog jumps out of wide open window, attacks and is shot in self defence.

Another man records, what is probably in the whole scheme of things, just another day like any other day.....but to most people its unique and it goes viral.
answersonapostcard e2
10 12.7k 15 United Kingdom
9 Jul 2013 6:38PM





another view.
monstersnowman 9 1.7k 1 England
9 Jul 2013 6:52PM
Just goes to show, don't let the truth get in the way if a good Internet backlash .... I bet those who sought to send the video viral and cause mass protest probably saw what they wanted to see and nothing else and also probably saw the far clearer second video but it didn't serve their purpose so ignored it. It also goes to show how even videos can often fail to accurately give accounts of things .. But It won't stop people filling in all the blanks, assuming and coming to a verdict. There will still be thousands pouring over and over this video in minute detail desperately looking for one tiny shred of potential ambiguity, doubt or questionable action to brand the situation police brutality. Look long enough at anything and someone will question something. A very sad outcome but it seems the right thing was done in terms of the arrested man and dealing with the dog, however awful it was to watch.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
9 Jul 2013 6:59PM
Too many people have the view 'it is never the dog's fault because there are only bad owners'. Add a heavy mix of 'the police are [insert expletive of choice here]'. Then a hefty dose of the self-righteous 'Anonymous' hackers and internet knee-jerk. And you have a real recipe for concocted outrage.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
9 Jul 2013 7:03PM

Quote:Just goes to show, don't let the truth get in the way if a good Internet backlash


There just trigger happy, its not as if this is an isolated case, there`s got to be a simpler way of stopping a dog without killing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtOMswZ9Vp8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kef0Lil9liY
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
9 Jul 2013 7:09PM
If you are faced with what you perceive to be a hefty, aggressive Rottweiler can you come up with one?
Those videos are from different parts of the country so really are irrelevant.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
9 Jul 2013 7:35PM

Quote:If you are faced with what you perceive to be a hefty, aggressive Rottweiler can you come up with one?


Yes its simple, you let go of your prisoner and take a few steps back.
CaptivePhotons 11 1.6k 2 England
9 Jul 2013 8:06PM

Quote:Yes its simple, you let go of your prisoner and take a few steps back.


And then?
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
9 Jul 2013 8:26PM
You walk away.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
9 Jul 2013 9:17PM
Leaving someone you saw fit to arrest walk away. Great move.
At what point does the owner have responsibility for not properly securing his dog?

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