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StrayCat
StrayCat  1014446 forum posts Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
16 Nov 2012 - 10:53 PM

Do I have to start a new thread if I want to shoot an old woman?Tongue

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MacroMeister
16 Nov 2012 - 10:58 PM


Quote: Do I have to start a new thread if I want to shoot an old woman?Tongue

For both activities (starting a thread and shooting) I'd ask your partner first... Tongue

Last Modified By MacroMeister at 16 Nov 2012 - 11:00 PM
MacroMeister
16 Nov 2012 - 11:12 PM


Quote: What difference does the age make?
Ask A former radio 1 DJ

We are talking about 18+. If someone is between 18 and 100 they are an adult. If you think they might not be at least 18 you should check (ID). And whatever the age you should always have someone else with you, especially if they are a vulnerable person. I don't think you should do a portrait shoot with anyone, of any age unless you are accompanied. It's best to be safe, for everyone's benefit.

thewilliam
16 Nov 2012 - 11:47 PM

Why not just work with a female assistant? Working professionals need to include the OP's concerns when drawing up a risk assessment.

Much of my work involves young people so the studio is organised so that problems don't arise. Sexual abuse is the new witchcraft in that it's impossible to prove innocence once an accusation has been made.

A good name takes decades to build but can be destroyed by a few seconds of carelessness. Note: carelessness rather than wrongdoing!

pulsar69
pulsar69  101611 forum posts United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 12:30 AM

Good lord Portrait Photography has become difficult ! , if the lady in question needed a plumber would the plumber bring his wife or her husband , if she ordered a pizza do two people turn up ? , how about if a Policeman knocks on her door does she let him in without a partner with him ?

As a photographer your job is to take photographs , and most of the time at a clients request. So please just lose all the media junk and go do your thing , that's what she wants and is paying for and getting involved in all this other rubbish takes your mind off the job.

As suggested i reckon a model release form is all that is needed.

779HOB
779HOB  2999 forum posts United Kingdom
17 Nov 2012 - 8:36 AM


Quote: As suggested i reckon a model release form is all that is needed.

Pulsar69 - agree with what you say above. But can I ask a question, is a form needed? I am not an expert on these forms and their use, I have never used one. But in this case the photos are for the lady to use as presents and not for the photographer to use to sell on. Or is the form a belts and braces thing in case the images are later sold on. Or do you need a release form every time you take a photo of someone.

Snapster
Snapster e2 Member 2114 forum postsSnapster vcard England
17 Nov 2012 - 11:04 AM

Effectively you are a trade going into someone's property, which happens thousands of times every single day.
Ok it's slightly different as you will be photgraphing her, but as it's for her parents I'm sure possible situations will not arise.
Yes she is 18 yrs old, at which age do you stop worrying??

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade  1014720 forum posts England216 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 11:21 AM

Chaperones... yeah, they do give peace of mind I guess, but 18.... pretty grown up?

They "may" inhibit the shoot though - the presence of a mother or friend may affect how you work of limit what the 18 year old is prepared to do...

great photos come from great rapport and anything which breaks that is a real pain... I usually do shoots alone now, not sharing with other photographers, because swapping photographers breaks that rapport

janeez
janeez e2 Member 51174 forum postsjaneez vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 11:25 AM


Quote: agree with what you say above. But can I ask a question, is a form needed? I am not an expert on these forms and their use, I have never used one.

Then you should. It is part of being, looking and behaving like a professional!


Quote: if the lady in question needed a plumber would the plumber bring his wife or her husband , if she ordered a pizza do two people turn up ?

It' unlikely she would be taking her clothes off for these ones!

I would certainly want proof of age and ask her to have someone else present. Taking your wife along as well is a good idea.

arhb
arhb e2 Member 72143 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom67 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 11:51 AM

Model release forms only cover limits to usage rights.

Maybe a simple pre-agreed/signed contract would cover the OP to enter the client's property to take photographs of them, would be more appropriate - if the OP is that concerned.

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade  1014720 forum posts England216 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 11:58 AM

Maybe get a CRB check, hire a police man to watch the shoot and shoot through glass so you really can't do anything untoward

you can't be too careful

actually - use a 500mm lens so you are nowhere near the girl

MacroMeister
17 Nov 2012 - 12:19 PM


Quote: Maybe get a CRB check, hire a police man to watch the shoot and shoot through glass so you really can't do anything untoward

you can't be too careful

actually - use a 500mm lens so you are nowhere near the girl

LOL! That presents a great visual scene in my head.

Seriously though. There are plenty of home services that not only involve home visits alone, but even personal contact. Pedicure, hairdressing, alternative therapies, physiotherapy. The list goes on. Do they all have the same doubts/problems?

779HOB
779HOB  2999 forum posts United Kingdom
17 Nov 2012 - 12:19 PM


Quote: Then you should. It is part of being, looking and behaving like a professional!

Why? What is the legal requirement to use a form? When do you and don't you need one?

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade  1014720 forum posts England216 Constructive Critique Points
17 Nov 2012 - 12:25 PM

It's not togs, but radio 1 DJ's you've to be careful of Wink

Britman
Britman  81669 forum posts England
17 Nov 2012 - 3:00 PM

FFS, just turn up and do the shoot, she is hiring you like she might hire a trades person to fix a rattling window. Would that trades person ask for someone else to be present, would they even ask for an age check. Not on the planet.

As for asking for ID! At what age do you stop doing that then, 19, 20? If she said she was 21 would you even consider ID or just accept she is telling you the truth?

And you bringing a assistant, who to say you and the assistant aren't both creeps? (not saying you are)

A model release can be a good idea, just for getting permission to use the picture on your website.

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