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    canonfan46
    17 Dec 2009 - 2:14 AM

    (Posted previously in wrong forum.)
    Hi all, having just got a new 7D, I have found the "Camera User Settings" C1, C2, C3,

    I assume that these are custom shooting modes that I can set to my own preferances so that I can quickly switch all the important settings to suit a given situation such as a bird in flight suddenly presenting an oportunity.

    If any wildlife shooters have the time would they give me a quick rundown on how they would set up one of their "User Settings" for this situation.

    The following is a list of the possible presets and how I have set mine. Pointers would be appreciated if you think I have choosen the wrong settings.

    Shooting Mode = Tv
    Shutter Speed = 1/800
    ISO = Auto
    Exp Comp = +1
    AF Selection = all 19 points
    Picture Style = Standard
    WB = Auto
    Metering Mode = Centre weighted
    AF Mode = AI Servo
    Drive Mode = High Speed Continuous

    These settings are probably wrong but I would like to know where and if possible, why.

    Any advice would be appreciated

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    thewilliam
    17 Dec 2009 - 2:37 PM

    Shooting with a camera does have a lot in common with using a shotgun. You could do a lot worse than going to a clay-shoot to practice.

    I had to cleanse myself of my sniper training, then learn to "pan" the gun slightly ahead of the target and keep it moving after firing.

    Without doing this, the settings above won't do you any good!

    canonfan46
    17 Dec 2009 - 3:14 PM

    sniper training.........wow..........
    during your training did you train with blanks?

    thewilliam
    17 Dec 2009 - 3:40 PM

    Trouble with blanks is that they don't make a hole in the target. There'd would be no way of knowing whether our shots had been accurate.

    John_Wannop
    John_Wannop e2 Member 954 forum postsJohn_Wannop vcard Wales
    17 Dec 2009 - 4:07 PM

    Set camera to M

    ISO- keep as low as possible.

    AF selection- Center only.

    Metering mode -Spot

    WB-Auto.

    AF Mode = AI Servo.

    Drive Mode = High Speed Continuous.

    Shutter mode- Depends if you want to freeze the action or have a bit of motion blur, I normally use 1/400 - 1/1200 Sec.

    Use a mid tone to set your exposure.

    Keep an eye on the changing light as you will changing your aperture and ISO very often to maintain the right exposure.

    And a lot of practice.

    WildLight
    WildLight  7145 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
    17 Dec 2009 - 4:31 PM

    The settings I generally use are:

    Shooting Mode: Av
    Aperture: f/8 (if possible, if not then open it up a bit)
    ISO: Auto ISO
    AF point: Center
    WB: Cloudy (for a nice warming effect) or Auto for a more accuracy of colours
    AF mode: AI Servo
    Drive mode: Continuous (on its highest setting)
    Metering: Spot

    If shooting against a bright overcast sky then add a stop or so of compensation to make sure the bird is well exposed.

    Like John said, you can use shutter mode to give a bit more blur to the wings and background which will give a great sense of speed. Something like 1/100 and very good panning technique will create some superb speed-emphasized results.

    Look for mid-tone or dark backgrounds which will make the bird stand out and make exposing the bird a lot easier.

    Remember, practise makes perfect!

    Joe

    lawbert
    lawbert  71713 forum posts England15 Constructive Critique Points
    17 Dec 2009 - 4:36 PM

    What sort of birds in flight are you looking to capture in flight
    Large birds, or small songbirds?

    canonfan46
    17 Dec 2009 - 8:12 PM

    Thanks all, some very good pointers but not surprisingly, not everybody agrees on one set.
    But its interesting to hear how others see this set up.

    Lawbert, as I am only a beginner I just go for a wander in nthe country side and see what pops up. I would imagine that small songbirds in flight would be extremely hard to photograph because you would need to be relatively close, which would make them impossible to follow.

    andytvcams
    andytvcams  1110396 forum posts United Kingdom
    17 Dec 2009 - 8:33 PM

    Two. Threads ?.

    Pete
    Pete Site Moderator 1318446 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
    17 Dec 2009 - 8:51 PM

    Duplicate thread answers continue in this one Shooting Birds in Flight - Advice needed

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