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Should there be a minimum price for alcohol?


digicammad 11 22.0k 37 United Kingdom
13 Mar 2013 4:06PM
It could be counter-productive in unexpected ways. People who like to drink a lot would still drink a lot, but would then have less money to spend on other things like a healthy diet, clothes for their children, etc.

It would also potentially move spending away from pukka establishments to dodgy imported beers & spirits, consumed at home.

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puertouk 3 1.1k 17 United Kingdom
13 Mar 2013 4:16PM
The people the government are targeting are the ones with the most disposable income. They tend to live at home, single and nothing else to do with their money, but spend it on booze, holidays and maybe a car. No other commitments, so to say they cannot afford to go to the pub and spend 3.50 on a pint is not correct. The pubs have lost out to people who have commitments. There disposable income has dwindled away and they just cannot afford to go to the pub any longer and its these people who go to the supermarkets to get there booze.

How often do you see 19 to 30 year old's in the supermarkets buying alcohol? Maybe women go to supermarkets to buy there tipple before going out, but not many men. The people to blame are the "new" bars, offering spirits and various cocktails that get them sozzled very quickly. Offering 2 for 1 or some other offer to get them legless. The normal local/corner pub has had its day and the young people with their disposable income are not drawn to these types of establishments any longer. Whether this is just a passing fad, I don't know, unless the breweries can come up with an idea of there own to get these people back.

I live on Tenerife and the booze here is dirt cheap. I buy a 1 litre bottle of Gordons gin for around 10 (8) You don't see young people staggering around the streets fighting and being sick everywhere, unless they are the young Brits with the disposable income on holiday. Even they are having to tow the line now, as the police will not put up with drunken behaviour like they used to do. I live in Puerto Santiago, on the West coast and I never see any drunks staggering around being a nuisance. It seems to be the British culture, that you have to go out at the weekends and get blathered to be able to tell your mates during the week what happened or the fact you cannot remember what happened!
13 Mar 2013 4:28PM

Quote:

How often do you see 19 to 30 year old's in the supermarkets buying alcohol?markets to buy there tipple before going out, but not many men.



Daily in the in the uk.
thewilliam 6 4.8k
13 Mar 2013 4:51PM
The real casualties are likely to be the artisan producers like Sheppey's Cider based down the road from here. Their typical customers are discerning folk who choose a high quality product to enjoy responsibly and I'd wager that most are Conservative or Lib Dem voters.

Some of the artisan ciders are quite strong, around 8%, and they will virtually double in price.

On the other hand, "our people" who can pay 3 figures for a bottle of claret won't even notice any change.
adrian_w e2
7 3.4k 4 Scotland
13 Mar 2013 5:28PM

Quote:Nope. It has had no effect on the problem in Scotland.


Probably because it hasn't been introduced yet.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
13 Mar 2013 5:36PM

Quote:Some of the artisan ciders are quite strong, around 8%, and they will virtually double in price.


Why? They are not saying AFAIK to add 40p to the price of every unit, but to have a minimum price of 40p per unit. If the drink costs 50p per unit there is no reason for that to change.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
13 Mar 2013 5:45PM
How and who would this help, the exchequer ?
thewilliam 6 4.8k
13 Mar 2013 5:49PM
The strongest artisan ciders contain about 4,5 units of alcohol per 500ml bottle which would cost 2.03 per bottle under the new regime. We now pay just over half of that for such cider, or less than one-third if bought "loose" by the gallon from the farm.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
13 Mar 2013 6:01PM
I see what you mean. That would be a disaster.
Graysta 9 1.1k England
13 Mar 2013 8:01PM

Quote:Yes 10 pence per tin for the over 40's and 10 per tin for 18-39 year olds.


When would you like my vote you are my sort of MP
Graysta 9 1.1k England
13 Mar 2013 8:10PM

Quote:for such cider, or less than one-third if bought "loose" by the gallon from the farm.


If you have ever bought such Cider from the Cider farm you will understand the word "loose" the after effects can be those of a thunderbolt passing through the gut this is also linked to semi blindness and a lack of feeling in the lower body.
User_Removed 10 3.3k 4 United Kingdom
13 Mar 2013 11:24PM
I'm a recovering alcoholic, six years now since last drink. My drink problem started in the late nineties. My then girlfriend kept horses but we couldn't really afford them. We couldn't afford to go out. We bought the cheapest stuff which was white cider or super strength lager.

2 litres of White Star cider at 8% abv at 2 was cheaper than 1 litre of Woodpecker which was about 3% abv.

For 2 quid a night you get mortal but it turned into a drinking problem then full blown dependency. People I've met in rehabs all used to buy the cheaper stuff, white cider mainly.

Even if they did increase the price alcoholics would still find a way to get their fix, others would possibly benefit as they'd not be drinking this strong, cheap crap.
thewilliam 6 4.8k
13 Mar 2013 11:29PM

Quote:for such cider, or less than one-third if bought "loose" by the gallon from the farm.

If you have ever bought such Cider from the Cider farm you will understand the word "loose" the after effects can be those of a thunderbolt passing through the gut this is also linked to semi blindness and a lack of feeling in the lower body.



It ain't neccessarily so!
thewilliam 6 4.8k
13 Mar 2013 11:31PM
Our youngsters do have a habit of disgracing the country when they holiday abroad. I've been advised never to go to Ibiza.
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
13 Mar 2013 11:36PM
I blame the pubs and clubs that stop open to silly hours serving cheap drink.

Its not a problem were I live, its only a small town, but in some larger towns I have seen big town centre problems on Friday/Saturday nights.

Seems there not interested in that, instead they want to tax those they can`t afford to go out Sad

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