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theorderingone
4 Feb 2008 - 1:44 AM

I just thought those who are interested in the forthcoming Sigma DP1 might want to take a look here for some sample images taken with the camera.

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User_Removed
4 Feb 2008 - 11:40 AM

Thanks for this Gary. The dynamic range of the sensor appears to be brilliant. Some very challenging shots there in terms of tasking the camera to deliver. Does it very well IMO.

IanA
IanA  103048 forum posts England12 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 1:31 PM


Quote: For those unfamiliar the DP1 becomes the first compact, fixed lens camera to feature a large sensor (in this case approximately 'Four Thirds' size; 20.6 x 13.8 mm).

DP are getting slack!
With the 4/3rds sensor being only 17.3x13mm, I make almost 20% smaller than the DP1 sensor! Wink

Ian

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139367 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 1:35 PM

If only it didn't have a fixed focal length f4 lens eh? Bit limiting on creativity. Wink

IanA
IanA  103048 forum posts England12 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 1:41 PM

It never stopped Cartier-Bresson et al! Wink

Ian

mattw
mattw  105189 forum posts United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 1:41 PM


Quote: If only it didn't have a fixed focal length f4 lens eh? Bit limiting on creativity.

It's a bit limiting the short of shots you can get from it, but should not limit creativity in any way Smile

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139367 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 1:49 PM

Well it's very much a specialist tool. I wonder what proportion of EPZ's 5300 or so active members would be interested......... about 0.1% maybe? Wink

randomrubble
4 Feb 2008 - 1:57 PM

The biggest issues with it, for me, are that it's a bl**dy ugly lump with no built-in optical finder.

While I expect anything from sigma to be ugly but I don't think there's any excuse for not building in a decent optical finder in a premium fixed focal length compact. It puts me off the GR-D too.

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139367 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 2:17 PM

It does seem a bit odd that Sigma want people to pay around 500 for a fixed focal compact which has to be used in "tourist fashion", i.e. at arm's length! Grin

MeanGreeny
4 Feb 2008 - 2:21 PM

You're right.

Looks are soooooooo important Smile

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139367 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 2:30 PM

For some indeed they are. It has always been the case that some cameras are bought as male jewellry! Wink

More important though is the lack of facilities (i.e. zoom lens, optical viewfinder) on a compact which costs more than some DSLR bodies.

Oh and it's sensor is not APS-C sized, as some sources would have us believe. It is smaller. About a 1.8 crop I think.

Last Modified By Carabosse at 4 Feb 2008 - 2:32 PM
IanA
IanA  103048 forum posts England12 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 2:48 PM

It's a 1.7 crop, has an optical viewfinder as an accessory and image quality as pointed out by the OP! Wink

Ian

randomrubble
4 Feb 2008 - 2:49 PM


Quote: You're right.

Looks are soooooooo important

It wouldn't be a factor in choosing an SLR, but absolutely vital in a compact. Particularly a premium one. How many less Contax T2/3s, Nikon 28/35Ti or Leica CMs would have sold if they'd looked like the DP1?

Last Modified By randomrubble at 4 Feb 2008 - 2:50 PM
Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139367 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2008 - 3:08 PM


Quote: has an optical viewfinder as an accessory

Good grief! Grin

theorderingone
4 Feb 2008 - 4:00 PM


Quote: and image quality as pointed out by the OP

TBH, images I've taken with a Fuji F31 look just as good up to ISO800 (although I'm sure there must be more to it than I can see from those sample images).

where the Fuji wins is at ISO1600 and ISO3200. They're sadly absent from the DPI. Also the Fuji is f/2.8 at the wide end.

I've seen similar performance from the current Fuji F50fd as well. Just knock it down to 6MP at high ISO shots for best results.

Of course there's no RAW facility on either Fuji, which is a shame.

I suppose the DP1 isn't aimed at folks like myself though.

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