Login or Join Now

Upload your photos, chat, win prizes and much more

Username:
Password:
Remember Me

Can't Access your Account?

New to ePHOTOzine? Join ePHOTOzine for free!

Like 1

So you want to be a pro photographer… ?

Join Now

Join ePHOTOzine, the friendliest photography community.

Upload photos, chat with photographers, win prizes and much more for free!

New PortraitPro 12 SALE + 10% OFF code EPZROS814
ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014786 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
2 Dec 2013 - 10:42 PM

Light hearted look at what they don't tell you about "going pro"..... or is it Wink

Sponsored Links
Sponsored Links 
2 Dec 2013 - 10:42 PM

Join ePHOTOzine for free and remove these adverts.

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110235 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 7:08 AM

Nice one Ade, and it applies to anyone "going solo" not the photographers

779HOB
779HOB  21018 forum posts United Kingdom
3 Dec 2013 - 7:39 AM

Excellent.

alansnap
alansnap e2 Member 10528 forum postsalansnap vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 8:00 AM

Nice one Ade. I'm in a similar boat having jumped from mainline IT to a small consultancy. At least I have a pension behind me. Year three now and we're in profit, but years 1 and 2 were awful. I wish you every success, I would say you deserve it, but one thing I have learned is that skills aren't enough, so I wish you every success, because you've worked for it.
Alan

peted01
peted01  571 forum posts United Kingdom
3 Dec 2013 - 8:10 AM

So true Ade, I took the leap a couple of years ago after being in the telecomms world for nearly 40 years and everything you have said is so true.

Most true is that there is nobody to tell you what to do so you HAVE to get out and do it yourself. Your comment about self starter on CV made me laugh.
Exactly what I thought until I left the corporate world.

Good luck with yours

Pete

puertouk
puertouk  21065 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 9:04 AM

100% true. It's a tough World out there and people will stab you in the back, just to get the job you're after.

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014786 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 9:23 AM

Cheers guys

I was going to add in more photography related points, but when you start out, you kinda know those - so concentrated mainly on the stuff I didn't know about, the "business" bits...

Does apply to anyone Brian - I guess that plumbers going it alone have the same thing, though it may be a bit different if you were in the same "trade" before you went solo.

Going from plumbing employed to plumbing alone would be an easier transition than IT to photography.... ?


More photography related points... err...

Commercial clients probably won't ask for textures and wierd effects - though they may be a nice plus-point for family portraits ?
Spending 2 hours painstakingly editing every shot in Photoshop probably isn't necessary for most uses (and if it is, budget accordingly!) - plus remember that many clients have in house photoshop wizards.... Most of my work ends up on websites and is used in a pretty "matter of fact" way, though I do like to add in drama on the sites I build Wink
Keep shooting - you can get lots of time to do so if you work your calendar right, so get out there, try new stuff, enjoy... even it is just trying new lighting techniques on a mate....
Don't force photos down people's throats - as soon as I got my Tab, I'd be shoving it in front of people at network meetings - "Hey look at these" - just seemed to annoy people... wait to be asked Wink They can see you have a tab, they know you will have photos...


Out networking later - best get ironing... i now wear jeans and a shirt, not the suit Wink

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110235 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 9:43 AM


Quote: Going from plumbing employed to plumbing alone would be an easier transition than IT to photography.... ?


hmmm?

Not so sure about that Ade, I reckon those 10 points apply to any job, just change the skill from photographer to plumber (leccie or whatever) and the poor old plumber will face competition from his previous employer too.

I have a friend at the club who was made redundant from his IT job and tried very hard to make it on his own (in IT) but never got off the ground, falling at #1. I suspect, he'd spent too long in a corporate environment and had become institutionalised, that + the fact that most if not all of the "niches" had been outsourced oversees

I take my hat off to all of you who go independent, I had several chances whilst working and totally lacked the ability (and courage). Its a much easier life once retired and supported by a decent pension, the same rules apply but there are few if any consequences of failure (apart to one's ego Wink )

Last Modified By brian1208 at 3 Dec 2013 - 9:46 AM
janeez
janeez e2 Member 61182 forum postsjaneez vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 9:52 AM

Brilliant Ade. Especially the one where "Everyone has a thousand ideas and knows better than you." That is so true. I got sick and tired of being told what we should do and how we should do it by people who hadn't got a clue! Interestingly those very people now pestering us to be our assistants at weddings and on shoots!

The other really annoying thing is when I am constantly badgered about how much money I am making!

Evertonian
3 Dec 2013 - 9:52 AM

It is also a lot easier for somebody who has been working as a part time pro. because over the years you will have learned how to run a business, what clients expect, the kind of work handed out and how you are treated by HMRC. So you are 75% of the way there. Good luck anyway.

thewilliam
3 Dec 2013 - 10:10 AM


Quote: It is also a lot easier for somebody who has been working as a part time pro. because over the years you will have learned how to run a business, what clients expect, the kind of work handed out and how you are treated by HMRC. So you are 75% of the way there. Good luck anyway.

A lot of snappers who run a part-time business don't have the first idea of costing and then run into severe financial problems when they go full-time as plenty of delegates at our business survival workshops have found.

Few part-timers seem to bother to register with HMRC!

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110235 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 10:35 AM


Quote: Few part-timers seem to bother to register with HMRC!

they are daft if they don't (in my view), its simple enough and the penalties for getting caught are enough to make it worthwhile (again, in my view)

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014786 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 10:48 AM

plus if you spend £10000 on kit, it's tax deductible - it's not all bad Wink

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014786 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 10:55 AM


Quote:
The other really annoying thing is when I am constantly badgered about how much money I am making!

That's one thing I never get asked actually - not sure why... I just plead poverty at all times, maybe that's why Wink

It's actually a great way of getting out of stuff you don't want to go to - just say you've had a bad month lol

For me - the first point, "the nothing" was the strangest of the lot - just waking up, no more job... nothing... no business... that is truly humbling.

brian1208
brian1208 e2 Member 1110235 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
3 Dec 2013 - 11:17 AM

That could be #11 on your list Ade, you have to select and pay for your own kit!

(when I worked for Shell, it was accepted that you always had to have the best available gear, whether the job demanded it or not - it was quite a shock retiring and facing the real world Wink )

Add a Comment

You must be a member to leave a comment

Username:
Password:
Remember me:
Un-tick this box if you want to login each time you visit.