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    Carabosse
    Carabosse (e2 Member)
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    3 Apr 2005 - 11:23 AM
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    Nordical is very much in the industry, so his views are worthy of note:


    Quote: The Adobe RGB might well be good for colours but is hell of a disapointment when printing with this profile. Most if not all printers will or are just manufactued to print in sRGB. This has become the industry standard for print quaility. There are work arounds to print using the adobe profile but these tend to be a bit time consuming in terms of cost/production/profit so is not widely condoned. It is best to use sRGB for all your camera/print profiles as these will give you what you see is what you will print


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    keithh
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    3 Apr 2005 - 11:37 AM
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    Not true...the reason is that most High Street'Labs' can't be bothered to fork out for professional specific profiles written and spectrographed. Otherwise why would they simply use the sRGB default setting, that and because they are on the whole churning out snap shots unprofiled, save for them being in the camera default sRGB.

    Anyway that's me finished...flogging dead horses was never my favourite pastime.

    Pete_g
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    3 Apr 2005 - 11:40 AM
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    Time to buy some colour management devices and software. This will at least profile my monitor/workflow to my needed standards.

    For what's it worth I'm going with the advice given by Keithh as he appears to be the most authoritative in this thread, and others don't seem willing to justify their opinion with fact.

    If Nordical is in the industry then perhaps he can provide some advice to us on what settings we use, so we can review alternatives. I'm all ears....or so I've been told Smile. I'm guessing that in the industry means high street labs, and if so then sRGB makes sense, but not for dedicated home printers like myself seeking that extra bit of quality.

    I'd be interested in Bradley's opinion if her were willing to post it in this thread. This is the whole purpose after all.

    Anyway...off to buy the software. Now happily printing in RGB and photgraphing in RGB.

    Anyone have any useful advice on the best colour management/workflow devices/software...so far looking at Monaco Optix XR and Ez Colour.

    Carabosse
    Carabosse (e2 Member)
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    3 Apr 2005 - 11:41 AM
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    As I said earlier, people should try it out for themselves and see. It's not rocket science to do that!

    keithh
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    3 Apr 2005 - 1:06 PM
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    For building precise profiles, Pete, the Macbeth Eye-one system appears to be the closest to the professional methods used....ie..you can measure the colours on the Spectrophotometer and let the software make the adjustments...though at just short of a grand it's a bit pricy.
    If you measure that against 300 for a profile, then it starts to make sense.
    I use a company called Service Offset Supplies and to see the guy building a colour profile and watch him judge prints by eye and pick out colour deficiencies is a wonder to see...especially when his judgement is born out by the technology.

    Pete_g
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    3 Apr 2005 - 1:41 PM
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    Thanks Keith....appreciate the response. One grand is a little out of my price league unfortunately. I had spotted that system in my search for a decent solution to this lovely colour management issue (Wink but ruled it out for price alone.

    Being mainly for home use at present, with an eye on the future I need something a little more personally driven and justifiable to the other half, or else she will veto my purchase of future lenses and bodies(LOL)

    Thanks for advice so far...much appreciated.

    Pete, Since you ask I used Adobe's 1998 RGB profile all the way through. I use a (newly aquired) Canon ip4000 printer and I preferred the prints I got using AdobeRGB workflow to those with sRGB. I also tried ProPhoto but couldn't get satisfactory results (possibly through lack of knowlege on my part).

    IMO this is (possibly, depending on the quality of your preferred photo lab) only worth doing if you print yourself. My lab that I use if I don't print myself (a Kodak lab) just converts to sRGB before printing anyway so in addition to throwing away colour information my prints also looked different to how I wanted them.

    Keith, I assume you were joking; my post did contain advice, albeit indirectly Grin

    keithh
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    4 Apr 2005 - 3:41 AM
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    I just knew what your answer would be, Bradley and thought it worth posting.
    Wink

    Pete_g
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    4 Apr 2005 - 3:42 AM
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    Thanks Bradley. Your clarification is much appreciated. I tend to home print for the large part, so your advice actually reinforces that from Keith.

    Regards

    Pete

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