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    dangertaylor
    11 Jun 2012 - 6:06 PM

    i figured this would be most appropriate here

    my image
    stolen2.jpg

    and the (very poorly) edited version i found online
    stolen.jpg

    is there anything i can do about this? ive sent the original editor (well, as far as i can tell) a nice email saying he can either pay me for the photo or i could take legal action.. but what action can i legally take?
    i know in canada that i automatically have copyright over my own images.

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    dangertaylor
    11 Jun 2012 - 6:08 PM

    stolen3.jpg

    i guess i sourced the wrong original (i was shooting with bracketing)

    dangertaylor
    11 Jun 2012 - 7:41 PM

    new development: i found it on a site being sold as t-shirts now too..

    User_Removed
    11 Jun 2012 - 7:55 PM

    Of course it is theft and of course you are right to feel aggrieved.

    But, generally, the cost of pursuing a claim is much more than any damages you might receive.

    Really, the sad fact of the matter is that if you don't want an image stolen, then don't put it anywhere on the internet.

    More pragmatically, only put very low-res versions on the internet so that, even if it is stolen, it can only be used on other websites and not for any serious commercial purposes.

    dangertaylor
    11 Jun 2012 - 10:12 PM

    Now I've found it on weheartit as well (notified the site of copyright violation, so it wont be there much longer)
    as well as about 5000 blogs.. meaning it made it to roughly 25 000 + eyes.. with "****" instead of my name on it

    I'm a little bitter about this and plan to do everything i can to the little bastards. I also intend to inform their ("them" being the editor, and company selling shirts) website hosting services that they are violating copyright which will in turn shut their sites down. I also intend to tell the company selling shirts that if they would like to purchase the image they are welcome, but I expect royalties as well.

    arhb
    arhb e2 Member 72152 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom67 Constructive Critique Points
    11 Jun 2012 - 10:24 PM

    This link shows that it is possible to get some compensation when images are used without permission.

    scartlane
    scartlane  368 forum posts United Kingdom
    12 Jun 2012 - 8:36 AM

    this seems to be a little worrying trend!

    Im completly naive about this stuff and just assume that my pics are not good enough or in enough places to steal,
    how do you go about finding images that might have been stolen? is it word of mouth? some kind of search engine?

    saltireblue
    saltireblue Site Moderator 43695 forum postssaltireblue vcard Norway23 Constructive Critique Points
    12 Jun 2012 - 8:40 AM


    Quote: This seems to be a little worrying trend!

    Im completly naive about this stuff and just assume that my pics are not good enough or in enough places to steal,
    how do you go about finding images that might have been stolen? is it word of mouth? some kind of search engine?

    You can either copy the link to one of your pictures into the search window of google images or use Tineye software.

    Malc

    scartlane
    scartlane  368 forum posts United Kingdom
    12 Jun 2012 - 9:06 AM

    ah right, that makes sense lol,
    ill give it a shot

    NathanS
    NathanS  988 forum posts England
    12 Jun 2012 - 2:09 PM

    I know a couple of photographers (semi pros) who charge anyone who use one of their images without permission twice their normal rate. Generally I think people pay up when they demand the money.

    But I think there is also the need to appreciate what may happen when you put a photo online. If you put a photo online many people see it as being in the public domain, and it may very easily be used on a blog, or shared in other ways such a pintrest. (I am not saying I agree with that I'm just saying it is what is happening) But I am sure that most commercial organisations know fine wekk that it is not in the public domain.

    So my advice is to echo the advice above and only post low res images on line. You could also make sure the image has "Copyright of [your name]" written on it and even a link to your website or your photos on Epz - that way if anyone shares your images elsewhere it is a least publicity for you. And if there is anything you really do not want to end up being shared more widely than where you upload it to don't put it online.

    With respect to commercial use of your images (including marketing and publicity use) I would always persue it and name and shame the organisations to steal your images. With respect to bloggers and other sharing of your images I'd just be glad that someone is appreciating them.

    peterjones
    peterjones e2 Member 123860 forum postspeterjones vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
    12 Jun 2012 - 2:19 PM

    Also from EPUK this is worth a read

    thewilliam
    12 Jun 2012 - 8:03 PM

    It may not be a case of image theft. Was the pic taken in an area where tourists frequently go? If so, it could have been taken by another photographer standing near the OP or somebody who visited at some other time. I notice that the sky is slightly different in the other version.

    Many pretty places, such as Yosemite, have permanent tripod marks where many thousands of snappers have tried to emulate Uncle Ansel!

    dangertaylor
    12 Jun 2012 - 8:13 PM

    i am 100% positive that is my image. as you can see in the 2nd post i corrected the image as i was using braketed exposure.

    thewilliam
    12 Jun 2012 - 8:49 PM

    In that case, gather proof and demand a repro fee from the thief. Is he/she in the same country?

    dangertaylor
    12 Jun 2012 - 9:22 PM

    I am still awaiting contact from one of them (the other contacted me stating he took the picture from another site with no knowledge that it violated copyright, he was kind enough to ask if i would like it taken down though, to which i responded just credit it and he can leave it up.. so i need to track down the editor) the one im waiting on is the one selling the image on shirts. i believe they are in a different country, but on the same continent.
    i intend to invoice the site selling shirts (and will find the contact info if the person does not contact me so that i can contact them directly).

    personally, i dont mind it going around blog sites, its why i started my photography blog (www.blog.tierataylorphotography.com).. but when it starts going around without credit and a poor edit im not as happy about it.. and when it starts being sold by a 3rd party without my consent, or even knowledge, then im understandably less happy.


    thanks for all the replies thus far, ill be sure to keep this updated as it unfolds

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