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Stolen work


zebraboy 10 197 Australia
13 Aug 2006 9:55AM
I just uploaded a shot onto an american site with a view to sell etc. only to see it watermarked!
what can I do to find out who has effectively took ownership of my work?

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keithh Plus
11 23.7k 33 Wallis And Futuna
13 Aug 2006 9:57AM
I think we need more info...who watermarked it and where?
zebraboy 10 197 Australia
13 Aug 2006 10:03AM
No idea who, there is a thick but faint swirl running outwards from the centre of the picture.
User_Removed 11 17.9k 8 Norway
13 Aug 2006 10:06AM

Quote:I just uploaded a shot onto an american site with a view to sell etc. only to see it watermarked!


Are you saying that there was another version of the same image there - or - are you saying you uploaded your original, non-watermarked file and the watermark appeared on the screen subsequently?

EDIT: It may well be that the site has watermarked the image on your behalf. Have you read their 'small print' with regards to ownership?
skewey 8 31 England
13 Aug 2006 10:18AM
Should you not watermark images prior to posting ?
User_Removed 11 17.9k 8 Norway
13 Aug 2006 10:26AM
Depends on the site. Some do - some don't require prior watermarking. Case in point is fotoLIBRA.
pcheywood 9 1.3k England
13 Aug 2006 10:28AM
If the site you uploaded to is any kind of agengcy/agent then the image will be watermaked and/or tagged before going onto a public website for it's own copyright protection.

Or would you rather it was right clicked and linked to thousands of times for free??

Paul
zebraboy 10 197 Australia
13 Aug 2006 10:28AM
hi mike, I uploaded an original un-marked picture from my files, and it was watermarked prior to it's actual submission onto the site? after the upload there is the prview picture (marked) and then additional info is required before submission onto site, catagory, description etc..i'd put two other pictures on that had no such marks.
User_Removed 11 17.9k 8 Norway
13 Aug 2006 10:32AM

Quote:I uploaded an original un-marked picture from my files, and it was watermarked prior to it's actual submission onto the site


So the site watermarked it then. Have you read their T's & C's? If they watermark all inbound files prior to display, it will be called out in their T's & C's / upload instructions somwehere.

If not - then its email time.

Don't misread their intentions here; they are trying to protect your work - as best can be done - from theft. There are a load of related threads here on EPZ covering this subject of image theft; might help you if you take a search through...
agoreira 11 6.0k Wales
13 Aug 2006 10:34AM
I expect you'll find all the other photos there watermarked as well, it's quite a common practice.
zebraboy 10 197 Australia
13 Aug 2006 10:35AM
ok thanks mike, i'll give the terms and conditions a proper reading as I should have done initially, cheers
User_Removed 11 17.9k 8 Norway
13 Aug 2006 10:41AM
Good luck Manfred.
1100 8 36
13 Aug 2006 12:14PM
If you upload a watermarked image then that image will be permenantly watermarked, thus rendered useless. The site watermarks the image on your behalf and takes it off when a copy is sold on. They do this to protect you and themselves.
You will always retain copyright unless you sign it over.

The only company that will steal the rights to an image is the BBC through their 'your pictures' site. Don't ever submit to them, you are effectively giving away your rights.

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