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Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139392 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
7 Jul 2012 - 6:43 PM

This seems, on the face of it, a disturbing story about police behaviour.

Story here and update here.

Any thoughts?

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Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314948 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
7 Jul 2012 - 7:10 PM

Part and parcel I`m afraid.

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 103999 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland24 Constructive Critique Points
7 Jul 2012 - 7:14 PM

if it had been police in our area it would have taken them at least 2hrs to reach the `scene'...

User_Removed
7 Jul 2012 - 7:51 PM

Par for the course, I am afraid. I think we are going to see this sort of thing more often.

The important thing is that photographers know their rights, refuse to be intimidated by over-zealous police and, above all, keep their temper and act with the utmost courtesy no matter how much provocation they face.

Ain't always going to be easy but if you kick a policeman in the nuts you have unfortunately put yourself into the wrong.

779HOB
779HOB  2999 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Jul 2012 - 7:57 PM

If you acknowledge the police presence they leave you alone. A quick look and a nod of the head goes a long way.

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139392 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
7 Jul 2012 - 7:58 PM

And a friendly wave? Grin

779HOB
779HOB  2999 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Jul 2012 - 8:01 PM


Quote: And a friendly wave?

Steady on, I wouldn't go that far.

Jestertheclown

I wonder if that friendly lawyer advertises his services on afternoon daytime TV?

monstersnowman
7 Jul 2012 - 10:01 PM

The op described it as disturbing - I am not sure it was 'disturbing', although when in print with well written language and buzz words it begins to come across a little on the concerning side. I am afraid that this type of overreaction happens both by the police and also by and with the encouragement of the public as well. We the public have become over sensitive to these matters and hyper responsive, the police have reacted and fed on this hysteria. From reading the story it seems likely an of duty officer has been a little over zealous and has acted in a manner, albeit well intentioned, that may now cause the force some embarrassment so they are clamming up, releasing standard responses and not offering a complete transparent answer to this - the pr department swinging into action. I have seen many many incidents with telephone reports being released into the media (although not in circumstances were actions were being questioned or disputed) so this data protection reason is a little confusing. I don't think anyone was really detained, nobody was forced to delete images and no charges resulted after enquiries showed no offences. All's well that ends well, but maybe it was an unecessary event that even the force involved know was a silly overreaction by a well meaning off duty officer. I think we can sleep safely tonight still. It won't be the last.

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139392 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
7 Jul 2012 - 10:17 PM

The very fact that two gentlemen in their 70s were subjected to this harassment by police officers who clearly do not know the law is just a trifle disturbing.

e.g.


Quote: The photographers, who refused to delete their images, have told how they were left reeling in shock after police told them they were suspected of taking indecent photos of the boy.

Morley said police grilled them for half an hour in Guildford city centre and described the manner of the off-duty officers as 'aggressive'.


Jestertheclown
7 Jul 2012 - 10:26 PM


Quote: Morley said police grilled them for half an hour

I'm not doubting anyone's integrity here but was that 'half hour actually thirty minutes? Did he time it? Did the officers time it? Or is it a 'journalistic 'half an hour,' that may have lasted ten minutes?
Even ten genuine minutes, being asked questions, the weren't 'grilled,' by the police seems a lot longer. Perhaps more so, if you're getting on a bit.

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314948 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
7 Jul 2012 - 10:35 PM


Quote: The very fact that two gentlemen in their 70s were subjected to this harassment by police officers who clearly do not know the law is just a trifle disturbing

Not harassing for the parents or children then ?


Quote: Morley said police grilled them for half an hour

Serves them right, bring back the stocks I say Smile

Last Modified By Paul Morgan at 7 Jul 2012 - 10:36 PM
779HOB
779HOB  2999 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Jul 2012 - 10:40 PM

Mountain out of a molehill. Reeling in shock, come on.

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139392 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
7 Jul 2012 - 10:43 PM


Quote: Not harassing for the parents or children then ?

Is this harassment?


Quote: taking pictures which happened to include an image of a boy who had been in a pushchair


Quote: Mountain out of a molehill. Reeling in shock, come on.

You'd probably feel different if you were at the receiving end........... which one day you may be.

779HOB
779HOB  2999 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Jul 2012 - 11:02 PM


Quote: You'd probably feel different if you were at the receiving end........... which one day you may be.

I have been questioned by the police on occasion about why I am taking photos. Some are idiots and some aren't. But I have never felt the need to talk to a magazine about it.

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